General Chat / Shards Of Metal Fly, Injuring TTD Riders

Actually most of the restraint problems are operator errors, not Intamins fault. The S:ROS crash was do to a faulty pneumatic line. The person falling out of Hydra was because I believe her jacket was caught in the restraint and the Ride Op was not doing his job once again. The extra supports were because it was swaying a lot and people thought it wasn't safe. This problem is Intamins fault, but it is one of the few times it has been there fault, unless it was due to an overlooked problem during the morning inspections.

The extra supports were because it was swaying a lot and people thought it wasn't safe.

Parks don't fix rides because "people think they aren't safe", there were structural issues with the track.

this is one of the first times the ride was at fault in an accident on an Intamin rides. instead of just jumping up and screaming "taer it down!!1" maybe you should look into what actually happened and you can see that it's really not a hard fix. first, they need to figure out what went wrong. second, they fix it. which appears to mean they just need a new cable. which takes like...a day.

With the exception of some small and quickly corrected issues on Wicked Twister, some technical issues with Superman- The Escape and all the trouble with Dragster all the other shit was the parks fault. A leaky pneumatic line could've easily been repaired had it been found by a more careful inspection and all the restraint issues have been a combination of rider and staff ignorence. B&M takes no risks really. They take others idea's and engineer them to death. Intamin does their best in the engineering department but they take risks, they get messy and sometimes it pays off.

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Wouldn't adding supports to stop vibration cause problems since it is supposed to vibrate?

With the exception of some small and quickly corrected issues on Wicked Twister, some technical issues with Superman- The Escape and all the trouble with Dragster all the other shit was the parks fault.  A leaky pneumatic line could've easily been repaired had it been found by a more careful inspection and all the restraint issues have been a combination of rider and staff ignorence.  B&M takes no risks really.  They take others idea's and engineer them to death.  Intamin does their best in the engineering department but they take risks, they get messy and sometimes it pays off.

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Care to explain all the supports problem?

That's the weird thing...I highly doubt we'll see new impulses. There's no way around it, Intamin fucked up with their design for the thing and thought they could get away with more un-supported track then they could realistically...get away with.

Wicked Twisters problems were not small. On TOP of the Launch mechanism problems, the track was, for lack of a better term ripping. It was cracking. Extra support bracing was added to the cross braces of the TRACK ITSELF to be more stable. They didn't take into effect the wind that is obviously going to come with being on a shore. Oh yeah, not to mention they added extra supports to it. I don't see how that's a small problem.

That's the weird thing...I highly doubt we'll see new impulses. There's no way around it, Intamin fucked up with their design for the thing and thought they could get away with more un-supported track then they could realistically...get away with.

Wicked Twisters problems were not small. On TOP of the Launch mechanism problems, the track was, for lack of a better term ripping. It was cracking. Extra support bracing was added to the cross braces of the TRACK ITSELF to be more stable. They didn't take into effect the wind that is obviously going to come with being on a shore. Oh yeah, not to mention they added extra supports to it. I don't see how that's a small problem.

Good point Flame. Also we gotta notice that 2 SF parks added more supports on the impulse this year.

One in SFGAM :

http://www.sfgamworl...gallery/V2/V2_4

One in SFMW.

I wonder if this is going to effect Xcelerator and Storm Runner. Or do you think this could have just been caused by the amount of torture it goes trough launching that thing to 120mph? Not a good year for Intamin or parks, that is for sure.

LMAO. I think the word you're looking for is torque.


Now, I'm just amazed by the amount of ignorance about coasters around here. You'd think that a site devoted to a game called Roller Coaster Tycoon would at least feature people who knew a thing or two about actual coasters.

Read the reports, guys. The cable was FRAYED. This means someone in maintenance wasn't doing his job when checking the cable in the morning. TTD, while not problem-proof, has definitely operated without problem over reasonable timeframes. I find it hard to believe that a cable would not be frayed in the morning during inspections, then suddenly fray during the day. They replace their cable every couple of months, not couple of days as would be the case if the cable could fray so quickly.

Intamin makes quality products. If they didn't every one of their rides would have problems. California Screamin' certainly doesn't, nor do the dozens of other Intamin thrill rides there. They've just been plagued with problems recently because riders who ride Intamin rides don't realize the coasters are more intense and designed that way. So if you're enormously fat, or amazingly skinny, or have a propensity to squiggle out of restraints, it's not a good idea to ride.

I think the park itself is more to blame than Intamin. Don't believe the media hype, people. Look at the facts instead and use some critical thinking.

The cable could have frayed during the day. The cable goes through a ton of stress during the day, launching a 2 ton car every 30 or so seconds during normal operation would put a lot of stress on the cable. It would not be Intamins fault anyway, they do not manufacture the cable they buy it off of someone, it was just a poorly made cable, and possibly something overlooked during inspections but not necessarily (SP?).

LMAO.  I think the word you're looking for is torque.

No I ment torture. Torque would work. I was more wondering if the cable had issues since it is most likely effected more in a launch than Xcelerator or Storm Runner's cables since they do not attain such a high speed.

With regard to the supports on V2 at SFMW...that wasn't a stress issue...it was a redesign of the actual ride as in it's former state, it was in violation of height codes in the area....They shortened the vertical rear spike 30 feet and took the front twisting spike and angled it at 45 degrees (which is very cool on the first launch if you're in the middle of the train, as you get to hang upside down for a while.)

The cable could have frayed during the day. The cable goes through a ton of stress during the day, launching a 2 ton car every 30 or so seconds during normal operation would put a lot of stress on the cable. It would not be Intamins fault anyway, they do not manufacture the cable they buy it off of someone, it was just a poorly made cable, and possibly something overlooked during inspections but not necessarily (SP?).

I find it hard to believe that a cable would not be frayed in the morning during inspections, then suddenly fray during the day. They replace their cable every couple of months, not couple of days as would be the case if the cable could fray so quickly.

Also, Trix is right about V2; they modified it due to its exceeding local height regulations.

No I ment torture. Torque would work. I was more wondering if the cable had issues since it is most likely effected more in a launch than Xcelerator or Storm Runner's cables since they do not attain such a high speed.

You sure? Or maybe it was torsion. Anyway, if "torture" can mean "torque" I guess I've learned one thing today.

Let's not forget Superman at SFWOA (Steel Venom at GL now...lol)

TTD is up and running again. One statement from the park is they will close the ride periodically after continuos operation to inspect the cable. This means longer waits...

hell yeah. i'm goin tuesday. i'll just ride it in the morning before they close it.

I'm scared to ride rollercoasters now...

Changing the propulsion system wouldn´t work or help.
The S&S launch uses cables and sleds as well. Its questionable that the S&S system could provide the same acceleration on the given track and with 10 more people per train.
LIMs wouldn´t work too. It would require a longer launch track to get the trains to the required speed.

hell yeah. i'm goin tuesday. i'll just ride it in the morning before they close it.

ur cool cause u can ride any time u want. Lol.

i try.


i really do.