RCT Discussion / New Parkmakers. What do you think?

Thanks for the mention six frags and turtle... I'll keep at it because I enjoy the game... but yeh, when I think about my hotel compared to what other people on the list have produced I'm slightly frustrated but I let myself down badly and I guess I only have myself to blame. Hell, that might not be the reason I'm not on the list anyway. At the end of the day, this game is my favourite ever and it's capacity for beauty that I discover more and more will always keep me playing. Just not with two months to go until my A-levels lol.

And voodoo, I see your points, but iris is right - you need to release a solo, it doesn't have to be on a massive scale, just a full size park to prove your skills.

Andrew. He is the man.

Hm, well. Turtleman I've thought has always been good at the game, when he posted little screens of hacks, and shit, or whatever he did. I still don't think he should get the spot, he is to much like most other parkmakers, just a refection of them. I think we need variety, or something. You know? I don't think it's a bad thing, though.

I also think that this has happend quite quick, his sudden jump into RCT glory. Other non official parkmakers have been trying, it seems, a lot harder and longer than this Turtleman, and it's not that I think they should be getting a better ratio of entering the realm of official parkmakers, actually, I lost my point, forget it.

Hm. Well, I guess thats all I have to say.

Thanks six frags...

I think that Kai, Kumba (once BP is done), Super Trooper (once he releases another solo here), possibly Mike Robbins, Blitz (if and when he ever releases a solo here) all deserve parkmaker spots....

I'm sure there's more, but those all are very worthy and have some substance out there already.

Roger - we want South Beach and we want it now!

Patience my son, Be ready for something in June(keeps fingers crossed)

Rog

in defense of voodoo, he *IS* right that he pioneered "the style". I remember I first saw it in Voodoo mines, and it was a style that looked like LL, but different. Now, slob, nemchris, marshy, to some extent turtle, all kind of have adopted that style, all with little twists. And that's unfortunate, because if it wasnt for this, there is no doubt in my mind voodoo would be parkmaker.

Seriously, his biggest weakness is that his style is easy to copy.

Honestly it doesn't matter who is placed higher between you, John, and slob, because none of you three are even close to a Parkmaker spot right now.

It's your site of course, but I feel that is a mistake. If you ask people who the best RCT2 parkmakers are, you will get slob, john, and voodoo. Also, why is it their fault that turtleman can make a huge megapark in X days in LL, yet for a similar accomplishment in RCT2 it would take about 6 times as long. It just sucks...for them. Furthermore, I feel partially responsible for the fact that voodoo hasn't released a lot of stuff, but NWA *is* coming soon.

There is really a small handful of amazing released RCT2 work, and none of it is in voodoo's style. it takes so long!

So, ya, voodoo is good, and a lot of the stuff stopping him from being parkmaker is out of his control. It just kind of sucks that if "releasing a full size amazing megapark" is a criteria for parkmaker, it is 1000 times easier to do this in LL than it is in RCT2. Not to mention that by the time you get halfway through a solo in RCT2, the first half is probably already outdated.

Ok, time for me to go through the RCT2 parkmakers Six Frags/Deano Style


VooDoo: Definately has the skills. Maybe needs to add a few more colours into his architecture, but that may just be personal preference. Definately has the coaster design and theming skills to be a parkmaker. Please note that I am not saying you are unproductive, but I haven't seen enough of your most recent work to guarentee the above statements.

SloB: Same as VooDoo in that I have not seen enough of your work to make a sound judgement, but what I have seen I like. It seems that you are a developing a more unique style (PT screen) and your colours choice seems great. I'd say you are a great all rounder, not specialising in one particular aspect of parkmaking. Just get a full solo out there that shows your current skills and you'll be in there.

Phatage: One of the more creative parkmakers. Proved that with unfriendly invader PT entry. Phenominal hacker and proves that he can switch from extreme realism to extreme fantasy. My top choice for the next parkmaker spot. My only complain is that his style can seems a tiny bit messy at points...

Dark Janus: A top prospect for the future. Just needs to show himself more. Made some amazing rapids on Soul Calibur and his Antilantis work is truly inspiring (trust me) I feel he is underated. His Tallin mini-park was a little disapointing, but understandable under the circumstances, it may have dragged him down some people's lists. But his other work is truly amazing, definately for a run-in at parkmaker spot soon enough.

Kumba: I agree with Iris on this. A very solid parkmaker with evident hacking skills. Original ideas are there, but you always seem to come out with the same style. And that is too the extreme. Need to theme things more other than 1/4 tile bushes and trees. More planning needed maybe...

Titan: Main problem: Lacks motivation. Main asset: Coaster design. This guy is probably the best RCT2 coaster designer out there. His theming skills are strong, as are his landscaping and architectural ones. But they don't quite match up to his coaster building. More recently, he seems to lack motivation and not seem to get much done, but add more to his workload. That's his main down point, but if he gets that together, a parkmaker spot may not be too far away.

Gymkid: Originality is his key. I like it, although his style can be a little messy. The ideas are definately there, the parkmaking skills are almost there, but then again, i haven't seen enough of his work to make a totally fair judgement.

John: Needs to release a solo. Definately architecturally superior, but needs to get down and release something to show, then will be his oppertune moment for a parkmaker spot. Not much else I can say to be honest.

Six Frags: I think he has the skills, but he needs to make his parks more eye pleasing. Less muddy grass on jagged rocks with trees on top, more flowers and 1/4 tile bushes etc. Architecture is solid, but can be slightly blocky. Also needs to interact coaster with surroundings more. Path interaction would be the best way. Another one who has the ideas...needs to keep up with the parkmaking. Very productive though.

Supertrooper: Probably one of the most productive parkmakers out there releasing solo after solo, all of consistant quality. Scarborough Faire was probably his best work with some amazing ideas pulls off beautifully. He's ever improving and just needs to fine-tune his style to make it more eye pleasing.

Jacko Shanty: Haven't seen enough of his work to really make that much of an accurate judgement, but he seems to be able to pull off complex architecture beautifully. Release a solo please.

Austin Powers: Another ideas man. Roman Epic is so well planned it's unbelievable. The architecture is very good, but I feel it could benefit from a little more detail. Love the idea of making it the same as the mediteranean. Also, very productive. You need to get your coaster designs up to scratch though, but all the same, very promising stuff and I look forward to Roman Epic very much.

RCTNW: Obviously a phenominal hotel builder. But he needs to move away slightly from that and show us some astounding park building, with hotels to support it. Not astounding hotels with a park to support them. If you see what I mean. But your style is very distinguishable which is a good thing.

RWadams: Yeah. Release South Beach. Or NASCAR. Both looks very good, and both would really boost you up the list. It seems that since the pro-tour you have been a little unproductive, however, I know this isn't the case as you have 2 large parks underway. But you need something to show.

Kai: Fantasy style is perfected. I love your work, but there doesn't seem to be enough of it recently. A big solo would be nice, although with RCTMasters and many group projects, that probably won't be possible, which is a shame

Deano: Port haven was bootiful. Well, what you had done of it. Definately has the skills, but evidently lacks the motivation. If he does get the motivation, he can make something astounding in a short space of time. Just needs to find it because becoming a serious contender.

Nemesis Chris: I'll use your new BG Europe screen as an example. Your architecture is good, but always the same style, whatever theme you use. The china screen had your normal architectural style, but with oriental rooves. It didn't look chinese. You need to adapt your architecture to fit the theme more. Your landscaping and coaster design skills are very high though, so a future prospect I would say.

Leighx: Middle Earth looks great, but slightly inconsistant. The majority of the screens look excellent, but there are some that let it down somewhat. Just make sure you work consistantly and put the same amount of time and effort into every building/ride. You have the potential to become a parkmaker in the future.

Junya: GoD had excellent coaster designs and hacks. But I can say that I detested the architecture. Haven't seen your recent work, but I would guess your style has changed since. I would hope it has. If so, then you have a good shot at a parkmaker spot.

JKay: Need to see his work in game, but his screenshots look very promising. Some nice ideas pulled off well, quite an original style as well. I like it, but not parkmaker material quite yet. Potential though.


I've probably missed some. Shout up if so.

Metro

Gymkid, I might have been a bit harsh in that post.
The three of them ARE close to being parkmakers...to a certain extent.
They are on the second level right now. First level people are those that I see getting parkmaker spots in the immediate future, and the only two people on that list right now are Phatage and Turtleman.
Voodoo, John, and slob consist of the next level, along with Micool, Alec, and a few others.

I just don't see how someone can complain about being called unproductive, when they've never completed a full park at NE...that is the DEFINITION of unproductive. Coaster Ed as incredible as he was, was unproductive at making parks. He was the best H2H'er of all time, and he had that going for him, but if it wasn't for Egyptopia, he wouldnt be where he is today.

Quit complaining about NOT being one and do something to RECTIFY the issue.
Asking "why am I looked over?" does not help solve anything. Give people something to like.
As a wise person once said: "Excuses are like armpits; they stink."

Voodoo, I cannot help but think your attitude towards this is all backwards. It seems like you are playing for recognition and not the enjoyment of the game. If you REALLY were playing for enjoyment ahead of recognition, you wouldn't have posted. You should not CARE what other people think as much as you do - if they enjoy your work it is a great plus, no doubt, but it should not be priority one.

If anything, you should be pushed to produce something you can be truly proud of, not some dinky PT entry that you squeaked by on. Relying on solely on contests for a key to the gate is not the best way to go about things. I know I will feel more accomplished once I release a full park by myself and if something were to come from it, that'd be even better. But using older projects to justify your cause now is ludicrous. Make something to be proud of.

Iris, I never mentioned Marshy once in my whole post, I actually have a solo in the works at the moment that nobody has seen aside from NC.

But....

What ever, I quit. Iris, take me off the list. Take me off the H2H3 rooster. Take me out of Blaze Battle. Take me out of the NE RCT2 collabo. For the time being, NE and voodoo are two completely different things.

Are you and nemesis chris 'going out' or something?

Sleeper, if iris ever notices him:
Tyandor

Too bad his park is TT. Its really very good.

I'm honored to be on some peoples list, but really I still have lots to do before I can send my current project in.

And Thorpedo, if u have WW, then you'll will be able to open it, because I converted the required TT-objects and made it TT free(I checked it).

Are you and nemesis chris 'going out' or something?

You have guts.

What ever, I quit. Iris, take me off the list. Take me off the H2H3 rooster. Take me out of Blaze Battle. Take me out of the NE RCT2 collabo. For the time being, NE and voodoo are two completely different things.

calm down?

Are you trying to like "punish" him for not making you a parkmaker? That's silly. You are really good at the game, God knows how many people love looking at your stuff, and only you know what the future might hold for you.

I agree with you and if I was iris you would be a parkmaker. I'm sure a lot of people do. Just don't be a moron. think of NemChris, and everything will be okay.

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Iris, you are factually correct. In fact, I can't argue with you. Neither of the 3 have produced a good quality solo park.

However, I wouldn't be too proud of a system in which CoasterEd might not have made it as a parkmaker. You said it yourself, doesn't that say SOMETHING? I agree that solo, megaparks are a great way to dominate the game, but sheesh.

What ever, I quit. Iris, take me off the list. Take me off the H2H3 rooster. Take me out of Blaze Battle. Take me out of the NE RCT2 collabo. For the time being, NE and voodoo are two completely different things.

Quit and I will personally hunt out your ass and beat the living shit out of you. I am so sick of you whiners who can't take a little face-up criticism. If all you really want is to become a parkmaker, fine. That's half of what I play for. That's the reason it's so addicting, everyone who never discovered the internet community quit 4 years ago. I don't deny that I would like to be a parkmaker, and if that IS all you play for, I don't have a problem. But if it is then you better be prepared to do what iris and the rest of the so called parkmaker committee wants, and you better do it right. It has taken me a long time to start to do the things they want me to do. I am still having a lot of fun, but I have to build my parks my way. You think I couldn't build like Turtleman does if I wanted? Shit I've been around way longer than you. Hooray for you pioneering RCT2, cheers. I've been around for fucking ages, hell I remember mantis and toon and Mort and all the rct2 parkmakers being nooBs. So don't fucking talk to me about how you've been around so long. Goddammit you know you're just going to come back if you quit, so why don't you just kiss and make up now and we'll all pretend nothing happened, or you'll become an almost Alec or kiddo.

owned.

Oh no! Don't do that! Whatever will I do now!?

The only person who you're hurting is Micool, cause his H2H team is fucked over. I never knew you were such a baby, and couldn't take any criticism, cause you seemed pretty cool when I talked to you on MSN. For some reason, I think that if I gave the same comments to slob or John, they might not have liked them, but they wouldn't have thrown a temper tantrum over them either. Wow, am I glad that I learned all this before you ever did become a parkmaker, because character and personality have a lot to do with who I pick. Regardless of if you want to take you off the List, you wouldn't even be considered nowadays anyway, becuase you've proven yourself to be a whiney, spoiled brat. What did you think would happen when you post a "me-first" bigheaded speech about why you deserve to be a parkmaker, and why other people that are in the same exact position as you don't deserve to be in the same sentence as you.

Oh well, not a big deal. You could have been really good, but you won't be. You play solely for recognition, and parkmakers like that fizzle out before they ever really reach their potential. Just take a look at OZONE, who quit after accomplishing everything he wanted to, while he was still improving. It's all good, you had potential and talent, but like I said...there are about 5 or 6 other parkmakers who have your same exact style (regardless of whether or not you INVENTED it or not, who cares? It doesn't matter now!) and with enough practice they'll be just as good or better. slob, John, and Kevin/Kraken were already just as good or better, and it really wouldn't take too long for Darkjanus, Metropole, Gymkid, or leighx to step in and make better parks.

Have fun at RCT2.com or wherever else you end up.
Even if you return, you've lost a lot of respect from me, and from lots of others around the community.

Voodoo is gone.
A day that will live in infamy for the rest of NE's existance.

Peace

does someone need a hug?

*to both of you*.

good thing i traded him. LMAO


bye

good thing i traded him. LMAO


bye

i dont think he's actually gonna quit.

What ever, I quit. Iris, take me off the list. Take me off the H2H3 rooster. Take me out of Blaze Battle. Take me out of the NE RCT2 collabo. For the time being, NE and voodoo are two completely different things.

Holy crap. Melodrama at it's finest.
I especially like that last sentence, there. Sounds like something a spoiled athlete says when he leaves a team to go to a new team offering him $20 mil instead of $16 mil. Way to go chief.