General Chat / Parkmakers - Next Wave

Toon:

It's a freakin' list made by a 17-year-old RCT player.

Obviously, Freak feels that age = maturity.

Hey Freak
I'm sick of your bitching about maturity.
No one really cares about the maturity level of NE members, and no one cares how old everyone is. That's the whole point of the website. Are you saying, if toon or Meretrix or Kai etc made the list, it would be better?
I think it's retarted that all your posts bash someone's maturity.

My God, can't you read Micool?

Where the hell did I ever mention who was on the list? Please tell me, because I cannot seem to find it anywhere in my post.

I only posted about the little controversy that has just erupted. I thought MM's post was really stupid, especially with the "sweetheart" attached to it, and I commented on it. Sorry, I found it immature. If you don't like what I have to say, then that's your problem.

I honestly don't see why you constantly attack me for no reason at all. I've never done a thing to you, and I don't really feel that I go out of my way to upset members nor insult them.

Let me go through your post and address what you've said.

Hey Freak, I'm sick of your bitching about maturity.  No one really cares about the maturity level of NE members, and no one cares how old everyone is.

Sorry, I just hate reading crap like: If you don't like what I have to say, make your own list, and put me on the bottom, sweetheart, cause I'm done wasting my time with you. I had a problem with that statement, and I addressed it. Do forgive me for having an opinion.

That's the whole point of the website. Are you saying, if toon or Meretrix or Kai etc made the list, it would be better?

Again, please show me where in my post I even mention anyone on the list. I was addressing MM's most recent post and the controversy at hand, not the people on it.

I think it's retarted that all your posts bash someone's maturity.

Again, a pathetic go at exaggeration on your part. Sure, maybe I do mention maturity in a few of my posts from time to time, but how is it hurting you? There's a huge difference between joking around/having fun, and just acting childish about something. I'm sorry you feel the manner in which I sometimes post is retarded.

Save the attacks for someone who cares Micool. If you decide to do it again, at least read my post before you have a go at me.

EDIT: To address Micool's post above, I mentioned iris' age to emphasize my point that a list written by one of our peers is hardly something to get worked up over. I would feel the same way if iris was 49 or even 83. I was making a point about how worked up people are getting over a list created by someone that's like them. In the case of the older members, which do seem to be handling this list much more maturely (oh no, I said mature!!), they realize that this isn't a life or death situation. I respect iris and was not making an attack on his character at all.

I don't see how that was an attack at all. I could re-quote everything you said and start a fight, but why would I want to do that? I'm a friendly guy and I don't see why I'm honest with you and you go all defensive on me. When you say, "excuse me for having an opinion," (very sarcastically I might add,) I can't see how you can attack me back. All I did was have an opinion. I think you have a minimal problem of telling everyone who posts a joke or an argument that they're immature. It's intensified by your actions which, while not harmful, are at times hypocritical about you're little maturity thing. That's all. And I admit I have no right to stop you. But I do think it would do you good to at least listen to your peer's critiquement about your character. That shows true maturity.

I like playing rct.









oh yeah... ed... you see, even if you thought you cleverly hid that burn of yours, and even though you think it grilled me, i have infact made a full park before!
PWNED!

Blitz, that park you sent me doesn't count. I was referring to real parks. You know the ones with coasters that actually look good and trees that aren't all the same type.

PWNED BACK AT YOU BABY.

play nice?

Jesus you guys are acting like bitches, once the list is posted, its your descision to either take it offensivly or to spurt you on. You could always simply ignore it. I know most of those in the top half are glad iris posted it, and who wouldnt be? Its a great ego boost. The rest should either work harder, or ignore it. Simple!

My thoughts: the list is causing a lot more tension than needed. It seems like people are more worried about being on the list, moving up on it and being recognized rather than making parks and actually producing a finished product.

Its not so much as to the so called "tension" it creates, its the fact that some people are looking at the list and referring to it as: this person shouldnt be there, or that person, and defintely not that person he's overrated.

When I see that, it just annoys the shit out of me. Been one of my little pet peeves. The list is an opinion, iris's opinion to be exact. You can not say that his opinion is wrong or should be looked at again because your opinion contradicts his. All you can do is respect his opinion and leave it at that.

*this post isnt directed to anyone in particular, i just quoted John as a reference.

Ed is so mean to me


ILL SHOW YOU!!!
*finishes anti*

Yes, please do. That would shut me up.

Perhaps it's 'cos I'm generally easy going, perhaps since I'm older/more mature, or perhaps 'cos it's just a game, but I've never really understood the 'NE parkmaker' frenzy/arguments. No offense to Iris, as I respect the community that he's built, the 'parkmakers' that he has on his staff, and the parks that are produced. Trust me, I'm not a mod here for the hell of it...I was asked to join the staff, and I try to support the site accordingly.

The issue I just don't get is the fanatical frenzy about becoming one of NE's parkmakers. Personally, like many, my tastes differ, and therefore I have my own list of favorite parkmakers, many of which I've been fortunate to work with as a part of RCTM. We all have our own preferences and lists of favorite parkmakers, and the only thing I can think of is that there are a lot of people in the community trying to get noticed, rather than having fun with the game.

What people need to start doing is playing for the reasons that got you into the game...build parks that are cool to you, that you can enjoy building, instead of pleasing certain audiences and to get noticed. Do you think that current and past NE parkmakers made their outstanding works just to please Iris (or Dan back in the D-net days)? I'd like to believe they built them for themselves, released the parks, and got noticed for their true genious and originality, not because they can clone themselves after someone else. I know in my opinion, I'd rather have a bunch of MiCool, Mantis, cBass, Toons, etc..., rather than a clone of certain parkmakers/styles. Their skills excel in originality and the ideas that so that they can build parks that stretch the limits of either LL or RCT 2. That is what I feel is most important in a day and age where we've all been here for 5 years, and new ideas are increasingly rare. This holds true for all of RCTM, or else you wouldn't be part of my list, so don't feel slighted if you weren't mentioned above.

Anyway, it is nice to be at #17 on someone's list, so I do thank Iris for taking the time to view my works (however crazy they are), and it's always a confidence boost to hear/see praise from your peers. I don't know if I'll ever make NE parkmaker status, and if I never do I'll be perfectly happy all the same, but thanks for the kind recognition. What I do hope is that you all remember we're all people/parkmakers, not just random names on a list to be sorted every so often...

Well, that's it, now go out and have fun with it...while it lasts...

Kai

amen.

I'm bumpin this. Any updates, iris?

I'd like to see turtleman, splash-0, leighx and penguinbob added to the list. They've impressed me recently.

Turtleman IS on the list, bucko.

Indeed he is. I missed that. Damn, I wish I had your observation skills.

Alright,

Please. Please add DarkJanus to the list.
Antilantis is fantastic.
And he is well worthy of being, at least #20.

Indeed he is. I missed that. Damn, I wish I had your observation skills.

In the words of John:

"I'm flattered. "

NemChris is really underrated. Well, he has improved a ton since last update.

Everyone has improved since the last update...

Just you wait... Anywho Nemisis Chris could use some rais'n and so could Turtleman with that new park of his (which looks totally kick ass might I add).

I'm changing too but no one cares .

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