(Archive) Advertising District / Bayfront Park
- 12-December 03
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Ride6 Offline
The hacks are great, and the atmosphere is okay. It's still standard Kumba, aka, trying to be something that it isn't only with about twice the hacks. I don't care for the maintrain track in the upper left either. I do like it but not enough to say that I'm really all that impressed. I won't lie to you, it looks like a case of total plagerism.
However if Ed is endorcing this I won't argue.
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Janus Offline
Because it's an Erwindale spin-off, comparisions to Erwindale are inevitable, and in comparision I'm not quite sure about it.
I love the hacked log flume ride, very cool. The rest of the screen seems a little dull to me, it lacks that magical atmosphere. I think you should use less dull colours and your foilage selection and placement could be better too. There's just something about the screen that doesn't work, for me. -
Metropole Offline
I actually really like it. Definately one of the bets screens you've shown of the section. The foliage placement could do with a little work, but I like the landscaping and (of course) the hacks.
Metro -
deanosrs Offline
I'm not that keen on it... the pink flowers stand out way too much as the only real bit of colour in the screen, and the rest of the foliage is odd as well. It's ok... had it not been a spin off of Erwindale I'd be impressed, but because it lacks originality it bores me a bit. It's nice enough though. -
PBJ Offline
WTF! this is great stuff!
Kumba maybe you have noticed but i´m a great fan off all your work!
this is again a great piece of work you did!
I a gree it looks much like the water ride in IWV but he i like it!
the only thing i´m not so pleased with is the percentage of the park! it´s only 60% a Long way to go but it is it all worth!!!
greetingz PBJ!
PS. keep it as it is now -
tyandor Offline
Kumba is a fast builder, so don't worrythe only thing i´m not so pleased with is the percentage of the park! it´s only 60% a Long way to go but it is it all worth!!!
Looks great Kumba. It's to bad I can't hack myself because my RCT2 doesn't want to... -
JKay Offline
You call Kumba fast?....lol....only compared to someKumba is a fast builder, so don't worry
The screen is quite nice Kumba. It proves you are living up to the hackmaster I consider you to be. The rides are awesome, but the landscaping comes off as a bit sparatic to me making it hard to distinguish the theme or geographic setting you are going for. Like jacko said, this could be a Hawaiian jungle area, or even a alpine mountainous type theme, its hard to decide. Eitherway, I do feel this is one of the best parks going right now and am itching for its release.... -
artist Offline
Yeah a big improvment.
But them yellow flowers look horrid with this screen.
Keep up the good work. -
Leighx Offline
nice screen.
Im just not to sure on the way the flowers are spread out everywhere, maybe make a few closer together, i like the way you have used the custom houses as a base for a bigger one.
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Kumba Offline
Mantis - Well if you think im getting the atmosphere right i must be you did have a hand in that park i think?
Steve - Yeah it is bare in parts, so is the real Erwindale, but the thing with the real one is that it is not the same all over, some parts are thick some are kinda bare.
MachChunk - The Dock was Ed's ideas, im useing pic's he drew to make some of this theme. maybe i'll post one in the next update....
Jacko - The Volcano's are tree trunks, and the flowers were in Erwindale Forest.
ride6 - Ed is "endorcing" this.
tyandor - Me building "fast" was a long time ago, like when i did parks in well under a month. I take my time now, i don't think im "fast" anymore.
NC - The Yellow flowers mite go, they were not in Erwindale forest to much, just in one area really (by the kiddie coaster) so maybe they stay, maybe they go, but most likely i will delete them and just use them in 1 or 2 area's. -
Toon Offline
My criticism of this is that it lacks the magic of Ed's Erwindale. The ideas seem to be well executed, but the landscaping and foliage are not nearly as good as I remember Erwindale to have been. Ed's bare areas and heavily treed areas were well thought out. It all looked so natural and flowed so beautifully. I always suspected that Ed thought about every single tree and bush placement. Yours on the other hand looks like you just plop them down here or there without much overall though to the final product. You seem to rely on the gimmicks and hacks, but really neglect the things that really tie a park together. My advice would be to take more time thinking about the landscaping and where your placing your bushes and flowers. The base is there for a great Erwindale spinoff, but I worry your overall vision may not be strong enough to carry it off. -
Kumba Offline
ok i got to admit i rushed the treeing to get the screen up befor it got to late
but yeah i cant tree like Ed even if i did take my time, but i can do better then that.... -
Coaster Ed Offline
Just to clear up once and for all what Kumba is doing, he came to me when he first started the park and told me that he wanted to do a spin-off of Erwindale Forest. I had really enjoyed working on that park and the idea of seeing the theme expanded upon appealed to me, so I gave Kumba my blessing and said I would help out a bit with ideas and maybe building a few things too. Since then I've more or less retired so I haven't built anything in the park, but I did sketch up some ideas for Kumba and I've been telling him what I think of the work he's done so far.
Rather than bringing up how unoriginal the theme is, which I assure you Kumba is already well aware of, it would be more constructive to suggest ways that he can take the theme further. I told Kumba he should do the theme when he wasn't sure about it cause he knew people would say it was done before. I've talked with Kumba enough to know that he's interested in expanding the theme, not on copying, so ease up a bit on the plagerism comments. If you're trying to defend me in any way, don't. I appreciate the sentiment, but it really isn't necessary here. Some themes like Atlantis get redone again and again. The difference here is that Kumba has put a lot of effort into coming up with new ideas for his area, not just in copying the look of it. The look of an area is always a work in progress, but the ideas are there so hopefully it'll get there eventually. In the meantime, if you have any comments that actually are helpful and/or encouraging, then please do post those. If nothing else they always help to balance out the other comments which are neither of those things.
Some of you have been helpful and encouraging. I just wanted to remind you of this cause I've read a lot of negativity in people's comments and I don't like reading that. There's really no reason for any post to be negative. If you genuinely want to help, than put a little bit of encouragment with your constructive criticisms. If everyone quits because they get nothing but negative attitude, then there won't be any more parks to look at. There's no reason for any of us to be anything but friends at this site. -
Kumba Offline
Well coz some jackass bumped my topic i guess i need to post a screen
This is the Treehouse, its set on 3 trees all have a face coz of their age (Ed's idea) Lots of stuff in this screen, a lookout tower, a pulley elavater, a swing, and a garden at the base with water flowing over it that drips water from small holes to water the plants in the gardens (its a slide now, but i will change it to a Log Flume so it looks more like water)
Kinda a mess now, but im working on it.
The Village Sqaure next.....
Enjoy -
rctfreak2000 Offline
I'd like to see a ride of this area aside from the small pic of the rapids (which makes no sense to me to have since the rest of the screens are located in such serene areas). Rapids require rushing rivers and waterfalls... Haven't seen any yet.
The lookout tower is very neat. I couldn't figure out how to do it well in Xanfia, but you've done that part perfectly. Nice job.
The rest is good, but I don't see how a guest can get around the area, let alone up the pulley elevator... -
mantis Offline
You've got furthest in trying to combine ride theming with scenery, and that I applaud - it's seamless. My suggestion would be to change the colour of the banner text, but apart from that, keep it coming!
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