General Chat / Do we need to swear so much?
- 20-May 03
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i c ded pplz Offline
what makes this site so great, is the freedom of speech - ok i admit i've been overusing it the freedom too swear lately - i don't wanna lose that freedom.
Maybe i'll take a break from NE, maybe i'll call someone a fucking moron - perhaps i'll get myself banned from the site.
Maybe its best if i get banned, who knows - but reading through this thread i've realised i'm not being myself online and indeed i've been acting like someone else. or in real life i act like someone else and this is the real me.
But i just wanna thank iris for giving me the freedom of speech, sure i might over use it - and if i do, iris has every right too take that away from me - but perhaps its time NE cuts back...? -
PyroPenguin Offline
NE doesnt need to cut back, I just think we mods need to step up and start hitting the spam a little more. Nobody cares about the cussing or swearing really, all it does is make the people overusing it look like they have nothing better to say... but it doesnt kill topics. Spam on the other hand can kill topics, so we need to be using the little delete button a little more often to keep that from happening. Think this should be more of a wake up call than a tightening of rules, because the free atmosphere kinda made you feel bad about deleting posts and stuff, but it really has become necessary to start working at it a little more. -
spider Offline
I dont post here often, but this topic interests me. I uphold the " uniqueness" of NE and it's lack of censorship. Members are given lattitide to express themselves in whatever way works for them. People who read and respond to these posts have the same "freedom of speech" to reply in whatever style best suits them. And those of us who peruse the boards read both the posts, replies and new replies. What stands out most, IMO, is that those people who write intelligently, do so, while sometimes swearing, AND those who reply inanely, also do so while sometimes swearing. A wrtier who puts content and thought into a post vs. a lame excuse for a writer...hmmmmmm. No comtest.
Ideas grab my attention; good ideas incorporating bad language. vs bad or no ideas with lewd language...hmmmm. another no contest. I swear, but only to emphasize a point. Insulting another is actually a statement about the insulter; that he/she is provoked, but not clever enough to use the language in his/her favour. Cursing doesn't get a rise outta me, but mockery, foul dispositioned (not necessarilly mouthed, tho often hand in hand) and just plain thoughtless banter with no other purpose than provocation bores me.
For those with nothing to say.. DONT SAY IT! Save us all alot of precious fucking time! -
JFK Offline
Anyway. Ed's reply was obviously addressing me, but he's too [uptight] nice to actually mentioned my name directly.
Who ever said I have anything against "the system"? I <3 the system. It's the fucking retards who rail against it that make my blood boil.I know some people enjoy testing the limits by insulting other people and saying it's all in good fun but a little common courtesy every now and then doesn't make you a zealot of 'the system'.
Sure, I'd love to see the world get nuked by a giant, mechanised, three headed t-rex with bad breath, but it's not going to happen.
The Man rules because The Man works.. Man.
Who ever said my intentions were that pretentiously lofty and high-brow? I do the things I do because that's who I am.You can disagree with corporitism, capitalism, blind patriotism, interventionism, commercialism, and the general socio-political condition without insulting everyone you see.
Make no mistake, there is no deep meaning behind it all. I'm just an asshole.
Glad we cleared that up. I couldn't live, knowing that someone out there thinks I do this shit for some reason besides sheer sadism.
Ed, I'm not a decent human being. I'm a fucking psycho with absolutely no empathy or compassion for anything on God's Green Earth. People like me, we're responsible for wars and death and hate and all that other bad shit Yoda was blabbering about in that one movie. Yeah, it was pretty gay.Being polite does not make you a zombie, it makes you a decent human being.
Regardless.
I'm a prick. But I embrace it, and, should murder ever be legalised, I'll have a fucking field day.
You see, the truth is that my father was the most honest guy you'd ever know. He worked very hard at the local crisps factory, sweeping the floor and cleaning the urinals. He never really got anything for it. His was a thankless life, and, as he was called to fight in World War Two, he began to realise that his ass was bleeding from all the dick he'd been taking.
He died there. All he ever wanted was stability, for us, for the family, but all he ever got was a minimum wage paycheck.
My mother raised me, and she was an overprotective bitch. She'd always foil my attempts to get some pussy. Pissed me off.
All these things, they all factor in. All those groupies who've fucked me.. It all leaves me all so empty. It's hard, being me. Knee deep in pussy, lots of blinging baggats.. It's all too much. It all filled me full of hate, and put another brick in the wall.
This is why I sliced off my nipples.
I am merely doing unto others what I do unto myself.
It's all because I have a small penis, you know. And, I way less than a bag of sugar.
Woe is me.
It's not about being a "zombie". I hate anticomformist faggots. You know the type. They're usually around 14-16, and they think The Matrix and Tool and Fight Club are the best things everer. They write 'deep' poetry involving beehives and sheep and other marvellous and original metaphors that no-one has ever thought of before..
Drives me up the fucking wall.
Dicks.
Why?I guess just try to realize that you are insulting people and if that's acceptable to you personally then no one's going to stop you but at least have some notion of personal accountability.
I say what I think. I'm not going to be tactful because that's not being truthful. There was a thread on Danimation about gay marriages. And almost everyone who replied said, basically, that,
"I don't have anything against gays. I just think being a fag is fucking repulsive, and you're an asshole for fucking somone up the ass."
That may not be an exact quote, but it's close enough. What bothers me isn't the fact that they're homophobic scumbuckets, what bothers me is the fact that they attempted to validify themselves and deny their intolerance right at the beginning by saying, "I don't have anything against gays."
You always get one far-right nazi nutcase who always has "lots of gay friends", thus completely justifying his irrationally angry erection.
Sure.
These people were denying who they were, and the way they felt about certain issues because the way they feel about these things is unacceptable in today's society.
G-Rocks and I once had a conversation on AIM about how racists have more hatred inflicted upon them than the minorities (generally speaking) that they despise.
They say you can't choose who you fall in love with. Well, you can't choose who or what you hate, either. And denying a part of yourself in order to avoid offending or insulting someone else is just plain pathetic.
Here's what I would say:
"I hate fags."
None of those insincere, bullshit "I'm not homophobic.." nonsense.
Ty has the balls to say it. Ty should be our role model.
[Side Rant - G-Rocks kicks ass. Okay, sure, at first, I, like many of you, had absolutely no respect for him, and was certain that he was in fact a skinheaded neo-nazi. While this was not far off from the truth, this much has to be said about G-Rocks: He speaks his mind, no matter how much shit he gets for it. If he believes liberals are retarded, and has the balls to say that, exposing himself to the petty, intolerant flames of everyone else, then he is someone to be respected. The truth is that G-Rocks is sincere, while people like Radu are technically liars in their attempts to tone down their arguments and beliefs and appear more level-headed than the true zealots they really are. The world needs sincerity, and we're never going to get that until we learn to accept people as people, multi-facetted beings with many beliefs and feelings, not faceless, two-dimensional avatars of good and evil, acceptable and unacceptable. A truly tolerant society is one that has learned to accept the truly intolerant as well as the truly intolerable.]
What, exactly, is your suggestion, Ed? That I should let everyone else tell me how to behave? Dictate my personality?
Fuck that.
The Wise And Enlightened Buster once advised, "Don't swear", so I started cussing like a drunk Irishman.
The Grand Dictator, Iris once said, "Don't make sarcastic comments to the n00bs", so I did.
The Almighty Daniel L Smith once told me, "Don't dedicate your entire life to putting people down", and, natrually, I thought it was a good idea.
Why?
Why-the-fuck-not? I've had it with arrogant dickheads telling me how I should be, what I should think, and what I cannot do. Fuck that. I'll do as I please - the more people like you tell me and Kirii that it's unacceptable, the more we'll do it. Up until the point where you learn to accept people as they are, not as they should be.
Mainly to piss The Moral Judges off (that's how it started - I wanted to piss Iris off, and it just fucking grew).
Hey, look, maybe when your collective angry erection reaches the size of Alex's ass, you'll realise that this forum is not life-and-death. It's not important. No one really gives a shit. It's irrelevent, and anyone who takes any of it seriously deserves whatever they get.
Don't expect me to repress myself to avoid upsetting retards.
And that's what it comes down to:
I hate tards. The world would be better without stupid people. I wish I could just go and fucking strangle each and every one of the retarded fuckers.
If any of you are stupid enough to take anything I say seriously, then you are stupid. And if you are stupid, I will dedicate my life to making yours a misery. All I ever do is talk bullshit. I'm the biggest liar on the forum (well.. SFK thinks Kirii lies more, but I'm working on that). It's up to you to decide what the truth is, and, if you're offended, it's only because you chose to be offended. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that almost everything I say is some kind of fucked up joke. Sure, you might not 'get' the joke (because it's usually just Kirii and I laughing at you), but you should be aware that it is a joke.
Do you expect me to say "j/k" like every other scragbag in the community? I'm not going to do that. Because that would be truly insulting.. To the intelligence of others. I put faith in the people reading what I say, enough faith to believe that they know when I'm kidding without needing a big fucking obvious sign-post. People aren't as stupid as you'd like to believe, Ed.
Do you expect me to not say anything at all, if I don't have anything nice to say? Not going to happen. Because that would mean that you, along with every other intolerant fuckbucket in the community, would be attempting to change anything and anyone you didn't like. Welcome to the KKK.
Look - I'm just saying what I believe, and doing it in a way which is entertaining to some, downright annoying to others. I exaggerate. It's one huge operatic melodrama, a massively overblown lightshow.
Moderation isn't entertaining - excess is.
That's probably saying something incredibly sad about society in general, as does the fact that certain people find me amusing. Sure, it may well make you want to eat a pubic pie, but people love over-the-line, excessive, operatic nonsense.
There is a reason that "South Park" is regarded by many (including me) to be comic genius. Just because your nose is too toffey-flavoured to enjoy, your morals too high, your scruples too plentiful, your dignity still existent, it doesn't give you the right to turn up your nose and dismiss it.
Of course you don't find it amusing. People like you never do. Two years ago, I wouldn't have. But other people do. And, more importantly (because, we all know I'm the only one that counts), I do.
Maybe, Ed, when you realise that no one gives a shit about your opinion no matter how enlightening, you will see things from my perspective. In the meantime, keep writing overlong posts that no-one reads.I don't expect anyone to change their minds or their actions because of my opinion but I do express my opinion anyway because that's my right.
Thanks.
I needed Ty to give me the "no one gives a shit about that" wake-up call. He was right. You can't say I didn't try to start a discussion on things that interest me (deSensitisationdeCaydeTeriorationdeMonisationdeConstruction). You see, the things that interest me interest no one else but me. So I'm not going to talk about that shit. I'm not going to put forth my honest opinion on most things because expressing opinions seems to be the world's most worthless endevour. Can anyone here seriously say that they read anything I ever wrote? Or that they gave a shit about it either way? Didn't think so.
Get a sense of reality, Ed. If your post has more than three words, people are going to skim. And if your username is "Coaster Ed", they're just going to skip the worthless bullshit altogether.
Well done to them.
I will look forward to the day when you finally realise that no-one actually ever read any of your posts.
...Go ahead and call me up-tight, I wear the label proudly.
Dammit. I actually have a lot to say on the main subject of NewElement's copying coolcats. But replying to The Great And Untouchable Ed was exhausting enough. Plus, I hate reading long posts. Writing them is just plain fucking demeaning.
Anyway. I might be back later to tell you why, exactly, you are all wrong and I am right. But until then, keep away from the bong water. -
JFK Offline
My model for God.Who's Daniel L Smith?
You see, most people think I'm inventive and original, but the cold hard truth is that I have ripped off my entire comedic stylings from this fellow.
Once upon a time, in between insulting me in chat and mocking Danimation members, he stated that the phrase which best defines his life is "Bite Me". I was in awe.
Such an inspiring life philosophy. The way he relentlessly mocked everyone made the gap in my pathetic life all the more visible, as well as showing me the way to fill it.
Since then, I've shaved my head and started endlessly mocking people online. Daniel L Smith is a great man. He changed my life.
I hear he was born in a mental institution and only sleeps one hour a day. -
Jellybones Offline
I hate me too.I hate anticomformist faggots. You know the type. They're usually around 14-16, and they think The Matrix and Tool and Fight Club are the best things everer. They write 'deep' poetry involving beehives and sheep and other marvellous and original metaphors that no-one has ever thought of before..
Drives me up the fucking wall.
Dicks. -
iris Offline
And just how fucking long was your post?In the meantime, keep writing overlong posts that no-one reads.
Thanks.
Thanks. -
JFK Offline
Iris, did you miss this:
"Plus, I hate reading long posts. Writing them is just plain fucking demeaning."
Now. Shut the fuck up. -
Andrew Offline
My model for God.
You see, most people think I'm inventive and original, but the cold hard truth is that I have ripped off my entire comedic stylings from this fellow.
George Carlin is my model of God, I've ripped most of my shit off of him -
Raven-SDI Offline
Hello.
What the fuck is going on here?
These replies are so utterly out of this world it baffles me...
No wonder I closed this stupid fucking topic...
Raven-SDI
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Blitz Offline
I'm too lazy to mock people on the internet 24/7
that requires commitment or something... -
OPhilisspiffyO Offline
Fuck
fuck
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Fuck fuck fuck!
Motha Motha Fuck!
Motha Motha fuck fuck!
Motha fuck! Motha Fuck!
Noise noise noise!
1 2 1 2 3 4
SHNOIDSE SHNOIDSE SHNOIDS!
SHmokin' weed
SHmokin' wizz!!
Doin' coke, Drinkin' beers!
Drinkin' beers beers beers!
rollin' fatties
Smokin' blunts!
Who smoke the blunts?
We smoke the blunts?
rollin' blunts and smokin'--
uhhh,
let me get a nickle bag.
Fifteen bucks
little man
Put that shit in my hand!
If that money doesn't show,
Then ya owe me owe me owe.
My Jungle Love.
yeah!
OweeOweeOwe!
I think i wanna know ya,
(know ya)
Yeah what?! -
Tyler Offline
Ok. This has degenerated into stupidity. Unless someone can save the thread, it will be closed soon. -
`sfkstyle Offline
... You nonconformist faggot.I've had it with arrogant dickheads telling me how I should be, what I should think, and what I cannot do. Fuck that. I'll do as I please - the more people like you tell me and Kirii that it's unacceptable, the more we'll do it.
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