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Eight new screens of PKD2003!

The park is now about 45% complete, with work on the waterpark coming along.

Now, onto the eye-candy:










Release is this summer. Enjoy!

The quality of those screen is so bad that it makes me hate your park. Try again.

Quite realistic. I'm lovin the King Cobra, and Hypersonic. I wanna see the Eiffel(sp?) Tower cause I always base a park on it's annoying little details.

Waiting for the Eiffel Tower,
Hevydevy

The quality of those screen is so bad that it makes me hate your park.   Try again.

Now that's judging a book by its cover...

They look completely fine to me. Must be something with your computer screen.

Thanks for the comments, Hevydevy!

doesn't look good, but definently looks acurate, and since thats obviously what your going for ***1/2 of ***** ish

Now that's judging a book by its cover... They look completely fine to me. Must be something with your computer screen.

No, it must be something with your park. It sucks. A lot. I'm pretty damned sure that what he meant. And he's correct. Most certainly.

Anyone who awaits this is... weird. Yes.

It isn't detailed, realistic, or pleasing to any of a human beings senses. Essentially, it isn't anything a good recreation needs to be.

So, yeah... it sucks. A lot. As I've already said.

Hello.


I give you merit for trying, but it doesn't look too spectacular...
In another words...

BOO-URNS


Raven-SDI
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Yep- Those buildings need a lot more detail. They also look pretty blocky. Coasters look alright though, I guess...

Yikes, New Element sure is the place to go if you want encouraging feedback!

I could easily add as many spires and slanted rooftops to the buildings as I want, but that wouldn't be PKD. Sorry to dissapoint anyone who wants more elaborate buildings, but that's PKD.

You don't have to add spires and stuff to buildings to make them more detailed. The buildings in all of the pics are very unnattractive and I highly doubt that they look like that in real life. I know I have only made one park and that wasn't even posted here, but I'm sure other, more experienced people would say the same.

Hey Timothy, what happened to Fantastic Wonders? That was a great park.

HT

but that's PKD.

No, it's not PKD. I was a season pass holder for many years and I know the park like the back of my hand.

Your buildings are terrible. It looks like you just slapped them together really quick.

The coasters are aweful. Hypersonic looks decent, but only because of the limitations of RCT. The Grizzly looks wrong. Anaconda is very wrong. Shockwave is hideous. Rebel Yell is wrong.

Your ride placement is way off.

The landscaping is plain. PKD has a lot more landscaping than that.

It's a decent recreation for just a basic representation of PKD, but it's not a top recreation. Maybe you need to re-evaluate the actual park some, go to it, spend a day taking in the sites of the park.

I'm lovin the King Cobra

King Kobra?!? That hasn't been in the park since the 80's. There isn't a King Kobra in these screenshots.

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wtf is this?

umm... you REALLY need to look around this place. The quality difference is deafening, so of course you aren't going to get "positve" feedback. What you are going to get is constructive criticism(and some non-constructive criticism, bastards, but not all fo us).

So lets recap the constructive crits:
-buildings need to be more developed. As they are, its just giant cubes with plain entrances, and do not resemble anything at pkd.
-your rides are inaccurate.
-landscaping is needed, you have practically zero landscaping.

Solution: study into rct a bit more, look at the other topics and learn what is considered architecture, and study into real buildings too. Try not to be ignorant about things like "detail", detail isn't slapping spires on a building. If that is what pkd is to you, then another problem you have is vision and emulation, aka, you have no skills in those. Vision is your ability to gauge depth of detail, and emulation is the ability to apply vision to reality(or in this case, rct). This too can be solved though, by studying scale and perspective, you can "cheat" out of lack of artistic ability. And don't be dissuaded by the jerks who only say it sucks.

So stop being ignorant and really look at the stuff at NE THOROUGHLY. Don't assume you know enough about making parks that you don't need help, cuz frankly, you DO need help, and being stuck up and egotistical about your work will not improve it in the least bit(that last part goes for everyone else too).

First off, let me address this comment:

and being stuck up and egotistical about your work will not improve it in the least bit

It's called having some self-confidence, not being stuck-up and egotistical. That's something that I've learned in a major way when it comes to parkmaking. In example, my last major park, Palm Tropics Resort, received much negative feedback initially, but as I said from the start, there was a long way to go with the park. And in the end, most all of the comments I got were very positive.

The people here are judging the park as if it is complete and released, which is definitely not the case.

Now, let's address the comments made concerning accuracy.

The building placement has taken hours to get everything where it should be, and recreate it to the highest degree of accuracy. Let's take a look for a minute at an actual picture of the park and have someone please kindly explain to me where I am going so drastically wrong with the buildings:

http://ultimaterolle...icochet_2.shtml

So there, please point out to me all of the detail that I supposedly missed. Mike Robbins, care to point out how I made Shockwave look hideous? Or are you saying that it looks hideous in real life? And I think that you well know that Hevydevy was referring to Shockwave as King Cobra. After all, he said King Cobra, not King Kobra.

Thanks for all of the valid constructive criticism posted. The park is 45% completed, so landscaping and some other areas are not nearly complete.

Well don't show unfinished screens(something someone told me once)and then you will not run into that problem. By the way, the Palm Tropic Hotel from your PTR was cool, but these buildings just are not good at this point. I do like the colonial looking building, but even that is plain.

HT

A statement to anyone new wanting to post pics at NE.

We are not always nice in our criticisms (sometimes justifiably so and sometimes not). But aren't 30 negative comments more valuable than 100 "looks great" and "nice work" comments. If you don't agree with the criticisms remember nothing will be liked by everyone. You can choose to ignore anything you think is not valid and look for ways to improve your park from the rest. I'm in total agreement that some around here can choose the stupidest things to criticize in a park, but you have to not justify those comments by getting defensive about your work. However don't dismiss every comment being made because you think its "just NE"

As for the park, I personally hate 95% of the recreations I see. Real life is far too boring to bother recreating. However, even judging your screens in terms of a boring recreation, they just look boring to me. The architecture is a cop out in my opinion. Real life building no matter how square have some detail to them. Can't judge the coasters as I've never been to the park. The landscaping is basically non-existent. If these are incomplete screens, don't take offense when comments reflect the state of your park. Perhaps next time you should state as much upfront.

Oh yeah, spires and slanted rooves wouldn't save your architecture in this case. It'd still be boring.

First off, I won't have negitive feedback intimidate me into cancelling posting screenshots that I know a number of people enjoy seeing and some may have the foresight to enjoy what they see.

Second, of all of the criticism, next to none of it is useful because hardly any of it has been proven to be accurate. I'm told that my Shockwave recreation and most of the others for that matter completely suck, and yet they look almost exactly as the real rides do. Would someone be so kind as to give me an actual picture of the park that proves my recreation inaccurate? From the one I posted, you can see that the buildings ARE block-style, among many other things clearly recognizable in the rec.

If you don't like recreations, feel free to skip recreation topics. If real life is too boring for you, then just stay glued to your own RCTII parks instead of enjoying the real thing.

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King Kobra?!? That hasn't been in the park since the 80's. There isn't a King Kobra in these screenshots.

Sorry I was thinkin of PKI.

I meant Shockwave,
Hevydevy

I wasn't waiting, I really never even heard of this park. But um cool park?

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you are missing street/path details, the buildings need more indepth surroundings, etc, etc...
what you are doing is omitting details you don't think the game is capable of, and in doing so, you claim you've already got it covered. Frankly, its bull. There is alot you are not getting about it.

For Example: A flatland of desert land and a few sparse cactii does not a true desert make. There are alot of sublter details you have to account for, small rises and drops in elevation, rock formations/dunes, and the borders where desert merges with a different ecosystem (like coastal tropical) on its outskirts. A shanty by the road in this desert isnt just 3 walls and a slanted roof, there's a shovel and a ladder leaning against it, and a well nearby with a knocked over bucket close to a rockbed across the highway that has a speed sign.

Stop thinking in terms of "what can these rct tools do for me right now" and start thinking "how can i make this come to life best?".

Placement is important, but how these items areas interact is what is REALLY important.


the best i can sum this up: you need your eyes checked if you think THAT is realism.

If you are looking for photos, you can go here to find alot of pics of PKD or any other park. Looking through some pictures of the park quickly I have already seen some things wrong with your coasters compared to the real ones.