General Chat / NE 2012 U.S. Election discussion.

Props to Chris Christie for giving credit where credit is due with regard to Obama's relief response to Sandy. Needless to say though, Republicans are pissed at their keynote speaker. Meanwhile, Romney, who previously suggested nixing FEMA, is rather quiet. Things are getting interesting, and this hurricane probably came at the worst possible time for Romney.

Also, lol:

Sandy <3s Obama. Sandy stopped Mitt Romney's momentum going into the election, gave Obama a chance to show his capabilities as the POTUS in reaction to a national disaster, and with Christie backing him up and Romney quiet, Sandy completely gave Obama +bonus points going forward into this election. I think Sandy could be Obama's HAARP experiment after all...

As far as I'm concerned, humanities are something that the president has his mind set on. Romeny doesn't strike me as someone who would have the best record of that.
The president has panels of advisors and experts that make important decisions in terms of the economy. Whic

I really should get my campaign running then. Also, I don't think I violated the value of human rights, I just believe we should prioritze on other issues first. Healthcare is among the most important of issues in my opinion. Sure, I won't mind legalization, but there is no doubt that it will help the corporations more than the workers just as tobacco does.

I also think Hurrican Sandy couldn't have happened at a worse time for Barack Obama. It probably won't have MAJOR impact, but it will still hurt him during the election

I also think Hurrican Sandy couldn't have happened at a worse time for Barack Obama. It probably won't have MAJOR impact, but it will still hurt him during the election

Explain yourself!!!

I also think Hurrican Sandy couldn't have happened at a worse time for Barack Obama. It probably won't have MAJOR impact, but it will still hurt him during the election

If anything, it will hurt Romney. He was advocating cutting funds to the kinds of organizations that help during storm conditions. FEMA or something. Since the hurricane he's been, predictably, silent. Also, if you read the article I posted above, he's not donating to all states affected by the hurricane, just swing states.

Well, I originally saw the election going in two directions:
-Barack Obama will win by a landslide
-Mitt Romney and Barack Obama will be neck at neck

To be entirely honest, I actually didn't look into president's efforts and expected it to be another hurricane Katrina. I still feel though that it is another mess that he has to clean up.

I still feel though that it is another mess that he has to clean up.

Good Lord, you act like Sandy is somehow Obama's fault. Your assessment is completely wrong anyway, Sandy gives an opportunity for the President to show how well he can deal with a crisis.

Well, I originally saw the election going in two directions:
-Barack Obama will win by a landslide
-Mitt Romney and Barack Obama will be neck at neck

To be entirely honest, I actually didn't look into president's efforts and expected it to be another hurricane Katrina. I still feel though that it is another mess that he has to clean up.

You sure talk a lot about things you don't know anything about.

Well, I originally saw the election going in two directions:
-Barack Obama will win by a landslide
-Mitt Romney and Barack Obama will be neck at neck

To be entirely honest, I actually didn't look into president's efforts and expected it to be another hurricane Katrina. I still feel though that it is another mess that he has to clean up.

IMO this was actually GREAT for Obama for the reasons Ling and I pointed out. He handled the response to disaster swiftly, cancelled his campaigning (the right choice), and dealt with all the problems of a multi-state disaster proving the necessity of FEMA, whereas Romney failed to respond to such criticisms, gave selective aid (to swing states...) through donations of supplies (that Red Cross didn't even want...) and even had Christie there to back Obama up for his aid! You can't claim that this is terrible for Obama if you didn't even look into what happened! Making assumptions for the sake of making assumptions there?

Notice the "expect-ED" in that sentence. It is pretty obvious that the winner won't be the out of touch idiot.

...less obvious than you'd think.

Christ...Jag...

Take a good look at your posts here and tell me you aren't the problem with Americans :/
Ignorant, hypocritical, uneducated nonsense spewing out of that hole.

Christ...Jag...

Take a good look at your posts here and tell me you aren't the problem with Americans :/
Ignorant, hypocritical, uneducated nonsense spewing out of that hole.

Lol, there's definitely a grain of truth in this I fear. You can comfort yourself with the idea that this is probably the case for most western democratic systems nowadays though. At least, imho this counts for the Netherlands as well, that's for sure.



@Comet: What is it with people thinking democracy is about doing the best for yourself? I myself try to vote for what I think best for the country and its inhabitants, even if that might harm my own financial situation, because in the long run a satisfied and pleasant society gets you further than hard, cold dollars do. Talking about why you should care about gay marriage and such while you know loads of people are hurting because they're simply discriminated against by a ''civilized'' nation seems unthinkable to me... Stuff like this makes me lose faith in the goodness of mankind.

Lol, there's definitely a grain of truth in this I fear. You can comfort yourself with the idea that this is probably the case for most western democratic systems nowadays though. At least, imho this counts for the Netherlands as well, that's for sure.



@Comet: What is it with people thinking democracy is about doing the best for yourself? I myself try to vote for what I think best for the country and its inhabitants, even if that might harm my own financial situation, because in the long run a satisfied and pleasant society gets you further than hard, cold dollars do. Talking about why you should care about gay marriage and such while you know loads of people are hurting because they're simply discriminated against by a ''civilized'' nation seems unthinkable to me... Stuff like this makes me lose faith in the goodness of mankind.

Because capitalism means monay monay monay!!! Unfortunately those greedy 1% pigs agree. Btw education should always be a top priority. It is the ONLY way to ensure our next generation of children don't end up like idiots. But that may be too late.

Because capitalism means monay monay monay!!! Unfortunately those greedy 1% pigs agree. Btw education should always be a top priority. It is the ONLY way to ensure our next generation of children don't end up like idiots. But that may be too late.

Education and the community are the number one priorities in my eyes.

Okay guys, I'm sorry. It was a bad idea getting into an arguement about legalization on nedesigns.com

Also, wouldn't it be more accurate to call them greedy .1% pigs. Most people that are actually in the top 1% are typically educated professionals (think doctors, lawyers, ect.) so it would make more sense for them to be liberal. Usually the top 10%-20%ers are repulicans though with an average income of $100,000+. Although many people think of the extremely rich as staunch conservatives, quite a few billionares are democrats.

Education may be a top priority, but the overall culture will affect the minds of most Americans. In other words, the feeling of community is long dead and will probably remain so until people are hit hard by the oil crisis. Hopefully people will stop destroying vital farmland, ravaging cities, and fattening the wallet of an idiot to live a god-awful lifestyle that is common among most suburbanites.

The problem of this country is not me, nor any one individual. It is all the hatred being spewn by complete asses that are stuck in the 1200s. It is the complete ignorance of the fact that we all live like sheep in an awful environment with no harmony whatsoever. It is the problem in which we only take action when we are placed at the verge of a catastrophie. It is the death of community feel, moral values, and individuality that has turned us into the T.V. controlled slobs we are today.

Go ahead and turn this into a black and white arguement. You simply cannot solve an issue by legalizing or banning something completely, so quit acting like I am advocating it when my intentions are the opposite. People are short-sighted and unaware of the mundane. We are herd animals and unless we can ALL accept the fact that we have dug ourselves into a hole (not just economically but culturally and morally as well), our futures will look bleak.

...no.

Stop thinking everyone who doesn't agree with your grand scheme for fixing "capitalism" or "democracy" or the country at large are just greedy, fat, stupid herd animals. Isn't this exactly what romney did when he mentioned the "47%"?

Okay guys, I'm sorry. It was a bad idea getting into an arguement about legalization on nedesigns.com

Also, wouldn't it be more accurate to call them greedy .1% pigs. Most people that are actually in the top 1% are typically educated professionals (think doctors, lawyers, ect.) so it would make more sense for them to be liberal. Usually the top 10%-20%ers are repulicans though with an average income of $100,000+. Although many people think of the extremely rich as staunch conservatives, quite a few billionares are democrats.

Education may be a top priority, but the overall culture will affect the minds of most Americans. In other words, the feeling of community is long dead and will probably remain so until people are hit hard by the oil crisis. Hopefully people will stop destroying vital farmland, ravaging cities, and fattening the wallet of an idiot to live a god-awful lifestyle that is common among most suburbanites.

The problem of this country is not me, nor any one individual. It is all the hatred being spewn by complete asses that are stuck in the 1200s. It is the complete ignorance of the fact that we all live like sheep in an awful environment with no harmony whatsoever. It is the problem in which we only take action when we are placed at the verge of a catastrophie. It is the death of community feel, moral values, and individuality that has turned us into the T.V. controlled slobs we are today.

Go ahead and turn this into a black and white arguement. You simply cannot solve an issue by legalizing or banning something completely, so quit acting like I am advocating it when my intentions are the opposite. People are short-sighted and unaware of the mundane. We are herd animals and unless we can ALL accept the fact that we have dug ourselves into a hole (not just economically but culturally and morally as well), our futures will look bleak.

I'm going to keep this simple with a two part response.
1. No. Just no.
2. Your attempted use of "big" words is just far beyond your capability.

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I've been following this from the start ,but i'll refrain from responding...

I think it's becoming a touchy subject....

Okay I'll get serious here.
If Romney wins, where should I move? Netherlands? Sweden? Any other suggestions?