General Chat / Free KONG and CENA
- 02-September 12
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Kumba Offline
I had been planning on getting a forum for a while.
My issue with posix is the immature way he runs this forum and treats members. Just look how he ended the Free K0NG topic, which btw was started by a highly respected member of the site.None of you know anything. Many of you have been with us on this site for years. You should know better nobody gets banned or muted here for nothing.
During this H2H, some seriously severe shit went down behind the scenes born from the illness in Cena's and K0NG's heads. Did this possibility ever cross your mind before opening a topic like this? You wouldn't just simply pm us to ask what the deal is if you wanted to play "voice of the people"?
What happened is nobody's fucking business but ours. If you want to believe that Cena and K0NG are not very well responsible for where they are, then that's your mistake. -
chorkiel Offline
A new forum wouldn't be a solution at all. NE is too advanced to be recreated.
I'm going with walto for this now. A better explanation than 'you don't know what you're talking about ' would be nice. -
BelgianGuy Offline
Yes they are close friends and I actually do know...
and tbh I know they've made mistakes but so does the person banning them and he's no saint like some of you think and it's pretty ignorant to not see flaws in something, don't bite the hand that feeds they say but if it feeds you crap don't eat it... Just saying everybody can make mistakes and I personally think posix has problems admitting he might have taken things wrong or decided too impuslively at the time.
btw walto, you say about knowing the whole story... I don't they'll let anybody else know, as I said both parties made mistakes and too bad that none are willing to see that, I'm actually willing to say kong and cena worded some things very strongly but I still believe banning was a easy way out instead of actually taking the time to resolve it quietly, I don't defend anybody... both parties made mistakes, but one party held a stick and the other didn't... -
Liampie Offline
What the fuck is going on? regarding cena: if you knew what happened, you'd agree on the ban. It's none of your business, though i wish i could explain the situation. Regarding K0NG: the future is unsure. The situation might change soon, though i dont know in what direction. This week i'll be able to take a proper look at the case for the first time in quite a while and it might make the difference.
For now, please calm down and dont make accusations if you dont know the whole story. Words can be very destructive to This vulnerable community, so stay calm. Please. -
wheres_walto Offline
I'd rather just hear the explanation. Honestly, it'd be much easier to just tell the story, rather than leave it open for speculation and accusation. All of this would be avoided with transparency. -
FredD Offline
Why are Cena & Kong banned? Probably because they did several things which they shouldn't have done. How many users has caused so many problems and fights like those 2? It's a good thing they are gone (for a while) so this community can have a period of peace. You don't get thrown in jail if you don't do anything wrong (well, unless you're a black person in the southern USA states).
Maybe Liampie can't explain the situation, but hell I can. Cena threatened in a PM to kill Liampie. You can think it's a joke, but if you know Cena and his mental disorders I would take it very serious. It's just something you don't do. -
Arjan v l Offline
Thanks FredD ,i was allready wondering what's going on exactly, thanks for the info.
Threatening somebody like that is always wrong, no matter what... -
BelgianGuy Offline
and you honestly think saying that on an internet board will result in him doing that, btw he has no mental disorders, I met the guy in real life, he calm and composed as fuck. And honestly who here hasn't ever been mad with someone saying out loud god I'd be able to hurt him... Again I'm not saying he idn't make a mistake just the fact that it was actually taken seriously is just a joke really... -
Arjan v l Offline
^^ If you're talking to me, then i'll say that it's wrong to say something like that, serious or not. We can be sarcastic ,maybe insulting sometimes, but dead threats are just wrong. -
wheres_walto Offline
So, basically this is the cause of all the drama?
Autistics are high-functioning, but it's still a disorder. -
J K Offline
Ok this is seriously getting out of hand. BG I really like you and think you're a fantastic guy to talk to. Hell we even have a joint design planned. I know about the situation as well and whilst I don't think you should have broadcasted it FreDD I do believe it will help some people realise why Cena is banned from this forum.
BG I don't care if you've met Cena, met his family, fucked him in the ass. I really couldn't give a shit but I also speak to the guy. Cool as fuck and I'll possibly continue to speak to him about the game in the future but threatening someone over a videogame for banning them from the forum is beyond words. I don't care how he said it, where he said it or why he said it. It should not have been said. Of course you're not going to understand as you want to see the guys on the forum and you really get on with them. I think I get on with them both as well but I do not want to communicate with any player who could actually stoop that low and threaten someone. Even if it was a sick joke, we all know Cena's relationship with Liam and this only confirms a banning is in order.
I must say Darren I'm all for free speech but there's a line. I think we should bring K0NG back as I believe the only thing he's done is try to support Cena as he was a captain but even though I like the guy Cena shouldn't be allowed back here no matter what. NE has been going so long and why now am I going to let some one tarnish this site when we've all worked so hard to make the game what it is today.
In short BG if you're not happy with the admins here maybe parkmakers is best for you because I know for sure that me; an NE member since 2006 doesn't want that drama around here, joke or no joke. -
trav Offline
threatening someone over a videogame for banning them from the forum is beyond words.
I'm sorry, but that's not what happened. I've spoken to Cena and BG about this a while ago, and this is just not what happened. There are many more underlying issues, from which I gather Cena ends up constantly feeling targeted by the rest of the Dutch community on whatever site he is on, even though whatever he did was on a completely different website so shouldn't follow him. Then, Liampie is their 'leader' and constantly tries to screw Cena where ever he can.
What I got told is that Liampie actually sued Cena. And I was told not to tell anyone, but yeah, there you go.
But obviously, as long as the truth is held behind closed doors, all this becomes is a dangerous game of Chinese Whispers which could completely split the community. -
Fisch Offline
how about we all go to amsterdam, have a joint about this, and laugh it out hehe.
In my opinion everyone here should calm down.
I do think that Cena and K0NG can be very helpful for the community and lets say I blend out everything that is held as a secret and just concentrate on what I know about them from reading Cena's and K0NG's posts I'd feel that the bans should be revoked.
BUT I don't know those secret things that have happened and to be honest I can accept the fact that I don't know them and that they are secret.
I don't think any of the stories that are coming out atm can really truly display what's exactly happened here so I won't be forming an opinion about this based on storytelling. If the admins want to keep it secret then so be it.
After all these guys are who run this site, they don't have to ask us for our opinions on every decision that they make. In my opinion it's as simple as that...don't let this get out of hand guys. -
Dr_Dude Offline
okay, so what did happen?I'm sorry, but that's not what happened. I've spoken to Cena and BG about this a while ago, and this is just not what happened.
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But obviously, as long as the truth is held behind closed doors, all this becomes is a dangerous game of Chinese Whispers which could completely split the community. -
Kumba Offline
Just to be clear I am not suggestion people leave NE's forum and join mine. NE is still an awesome forum. IMO the management by posix is getting to strict and I want to have another place available for people to talk without need to worry about a banning or topic closer over things they say.
The point of parkmakers.com is pretty much to provide what, IMO, NE does not. In fact there is a good chance in the not to distant future it will have a Parkmakers status section and maybe some other things NE had in the past. I would rather those things show up here at the actual NE, but idk...
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