General Chat / New moderators

Hell, even I didn't get heckled for the first ~3 years. Because I kept quiet and just showed my stuff. Which was, admittedly, shit. But I accepted the fact that it was.

Like robb says, 4+ years ago this site was full of even more shit. There was even a place named the SHIT PILE, where members could just talk so much shit to each other. Shit, can we bring the shit pile back please?

Can you say shit again?

At the end of the day, NE is a forum like any other forum, which means that we work to maintain standards congruent with typical forum etiquette and manners. If someone can respect the forum rules and "customs," regardless of whether it's NE or any other forum, they'll be respected as a newer member as well. We've been able to function in a mod-less fashion because the majority of members do respect "NE Etiquette," and those who don't are put through a series of temporary bans until they do. At the end of the day, asking to change the working system because some newer members aren't respecting what NE is and how it works is completely unfair to the admins who've done so much for the community and who've kept it running way longer than originally anticipation. I mean, we're not going to let the "hurt feelings" of a couple newer members dictate the management system of the site, just as we wouldn't let the feelings of a couple established members dictate anything. At the moment, the issues are isolated to within the reaches of a few newer members. That doesn't mean that the community changes for the benefit of a few who aren't respecting it; it means that they need to start respecting the existing community.


EDIT: Joe, you say that we'll start an argument because we can't accept any positive criticism, but nothing in your original post is positive in any way whatsoever, calling us packs of wild beasts, or that we're way more obscene than other forums (check out the rest of the 'net, by the way, if you think NE is obscene) and that NE is a joke site. That's not positive at all, and really contributes nothing to the situation at hand.

I've always tried to be welcoming and friendly to newer players.

Regardless, I have always thought that a lot of members on this site need to loosen up a bit. Stop taking things so seriously/personally. Half of the things that you guys get mad about are either sarcasm, or misunderstood words. Yes, this is an international site and naturally there will be some miscommunication between members. But you guys get so butt-hurt about the littlest things.

Shut up, build rollercoasters. If you love the game so much, great! Then build just for yourself and have a blast. If you feel the need to have your work validated as 'good' by others, then take the time to actually get good at the game and learn to take [mostly constructive] criticism without crying. I feel that the majority of us can find that happy medium where we play the game for the simple joy of creating while maintaining a public appeal for our work.

you gotta walk the walk before you can talk the talk.

Kudos on getting Gee to post again, though. Hopefully he'll be back for longer next time...

you gotta walk the walk before you can talk the talk.

I feel like this is the most basic way of putting it but it seems the most accurate. A forum is a community, and like any community (high school, new neighborhood, club, etc.), you have to pay your dues.

Heh, I was hated at first as well but that's mostly the shitpile's fault, chaos . Hey posix still hates me to this day , I mellowed a bit, but still am pretty annoying, but that's just my nature.

return of the shitpile

If you're a new member and start trolling by starting an array of worthless topics, posting mediocre screens multiple times a day, and being sensitive when someone gives you feedback then you will be targeted because you simply put a flag over your head. To think we are sniffing out new members to have some sort of superior attitude is just bogus. These "newbies" bring it upon themselves.

I was snapped at a couple of times and I didn't do any of this, though I do agree with you that it's a lot worse for people that do. If anything, I've been more hiding in the shadows since I joined. I haven't posted much, and I'm honestly trying to improve my skills.

I also think that you guys go too far sometimes, but who cares. It's just a website, just a game. If someone insults you just shake it off because they don't know you, they can't see you, and they're just throwing out names because they have nothing purposeful to say.

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I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities in life.

Wheres Kong when you need him?

When I was a new member here, I was flooded with insults, and the what I realky don't get is how did K0NG compare me with Wolfman before he even actually started reading my posts. MA called me an idiot numerous times, litlle did he know I was only 14 roughly when he decided to be a bad boy. How would he know that I had a beliw average IQ is beyond me. Afterall at that time I was in middle school. Now I'm going to college, and now that I am 18, not that anyone here cares, I finally developed in my brain something very important, and that is maturity.

The only reason I'm going to respond to you is because you called me out.

I vaguely remember the incident in question, and I vaguely remember doing it to make a point because nothing else had worked up until that point. Something about you claiming that the burden of proof was on the one denying, so I called you an idiot so that you'd have to prove otherwise. That point still stands, by the way--game on.

I've never attacked a new member that legitimately tried to make themselves a part of this community. Anyone who was polite, got feedback if they wanted it, had their conversations contributed to, etc. You in particular, Joe, came in and tried to stir up shit, and you got beat down for it. Had you played nice, I would have been nice. And considering the majority of the people in this thread joined the forum after me and all spent time as noobs while I was here, I have to ask; If they got how to be members of the forum, why couldn't you?

If you want to come on here and play the victim like you did before, I expect your results will be the same as last time. Sorry.

When I just joined, I started spamming NE soon after. Some members started insulting as you said, JoeZia. Then I got a warning from the admins.
After that, I didn't post for a while, but looked at how other members post and their behaviour on NE. Shortly after, I started posting again, but not in a spamming manner. I gave criticism in a good way, wrote three hacking tutorials (and I'm planning on more ) and now, noone insults me or whatsoever.

The meaning of this is that you aren't getting insulted or hated because you're a new member, but because of your attitude. If you're helping members in a nice, helpful way, then you won't get hated.

Also, you say that the members here are wild beasts. That was just ridiculous and unnecessary. There are some members I can get along with nicely, like BC(rct2).
Members don't "gang up" on members. They do that because mostly the "victim" posts too much unnecessary posts which starts to irritate several members, when someone would post only useless posts in your topic, wouldn't you get frustrated after a while? Think about what you did and try to think how you would react to that. I did that too after the warning. It really helps you, and not only on NE....

I like NE. I'm on friendly terms with pretty much every member on the site, and as a newbie ages ago I never had any troubles. And I was 11. This seems like an overreaction.

NE is, like I've seen Louis! point out several times before, self-moderating. You do shit, you get shit.

How someone who hasn't been here in ages, like Joe, gets on so many nerves in one single day is beyond me though.

But we're not the bad boys....


They are.

Wow ,good topic.
I never saw so much response in one day.

If you don't like it, then leave like said before.
Btw. Sarcasm comes with intelligence, maybe you will understand...some....day..

And another thing.
When i was new to this site (8 months ago), nobody here gave me a hard time.
Maybe you're not suited for the NE family.

Edit: Oh yeah, Kong.
What do you care what he says, you don't have to take it serious if you don't want to.

This is a hilarious topic. its so ironic it hurts to laugh. Although I do feel like some of his points are valid. Sometimes some of you guys do go over the top. Anywho LOL!!!

If this site is a joke, don't come here or start a website that isn't a "joke."

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