General Chat / Aurora Shooting

Just because something is designed with a specific purpose doesn't mean finding another way to use it is "wrong."

Well, you're wrong, because what they're designed for

Yeah because the only thing that is ever looking down the barrel of a gun is another person..

Just because something is designed with a specific purpose doesn't mean finding another way to use it is "wrong."

With a gun it is.

Go be 15 somewhere else.

Maybe I shouldn't have brought up the "correct" and "incorrect" way to use a gun, because that doesn't really help anyone much and it makes this all that much more confusing. The bottom line is, guns were invented to kill. There is no doubt about that.

If one child goes around breaking others' toys, you don't take the toys away from all of them, you put the one that's acting up in timeout.

In primary school (First school) I went around breaking other kids Beyblades. Beyblades were then banned from the whole school, not just me.

yes, that happened with pokemon cards, beyblades, yu gi oh cards, crazy bones and many more at my school.

you really chose a bad analogy.

^^why the fuck would you go around breaking their beyblades. Unless it was in a bey battle ;p

The best war that was ever fought, in my opinion, was the Cold War. No deaths were involved,

The vietnam and korea wars were part of the cold war. Only 382 american soldiers died in direct combat against the soviet union but that doesn't mean the wars that were part of the cold war don't count.

because it was primary school and he was a little shit?

Was?


But I did it because I liked to assert my authority. Thankfully because I was such a nice kid to the teachers, none of them believed it was me and I was actually head boy in year 5 and 6 haha.

You understand literally nothing about this.

No I don't. People like you are misusing guns by bringing them to the firing range and hunting. You're using guns for a purpose they weren't made for and endangering lives in the process.

No, just no. Your one sided way of thinking only accounts for a gun killing or harming another person.. thats probably one of the least used uses for a gun in America, excluding military use. Hell, people display antique guns / old hunting guns in their homes more than they use them to kill another person.

Yes, it's up to a person to use a gun properly and ethically. However, Americans have proven that this is NOT possible. The solution should be to take their guns away; why give the murderers the tools they need to commit their crime when we can simply take away those tools?

Because guns can still be used to defend from knife wounds, and any other weapons someone with ill intent may decide to use. Taking away legal gun ownership only takes things away from those who would get them legally.

Also, on the subject of the cold war, the only reason each country was dissuaded was fear of not having a bigger retaliation than the other guy. If one had been defenseless, would things have gone differently? Would it have been better if neither country had nukes? Sure. But that's not how it happened. It never will be how it happened. There are too many nuclear weapons in the world. And so it is with guns.

If someone endangers the life or property of myself and/or my family, I really hope that gun is able to stop or kill my antagonist. But every other day of every other year, it shouldn't harm anybody. If I announce that I have it to a robber, mugger, whatever, and he runs the fuck away, I'm happy. People don't want to get shot. But the fact remains, I'm not going to carry around a knife to fight someone who's also just carrying a knife with the same intent to harm myself or those around me. Knife wounds can be seriously fucked up, and this isn't hollywood. And a knife alone isn't going to dissuade as many would-be attackers as the simple cocking of a gun. That's half the reason pump-action home defense shotguns are as loud as they are.

No, just no. Your one sided way of thinking only accounts for a gun killing or harming another person.. thats probably one of the least used uses for a gun in America, excluding military use. Hell, people display antique guns / old hunting guns in their homes more than they use them to kill another person.

First off, it's not a one-sided way of thinking but a one-sided display of thought. It's a debate.

I'm not refuting that most people don't use guns to kill, I'm just stating the firearms are, by definition, weapons. You can display it or shoot at nonliving things, but it always has the potential to harm. Just b/c most people don't use something for it's intended use doesn't mean the intended use isn't the intended use.

Yes guns are weapons. So are knives, so are baseball bats, so are fists. Sure they are less deadly, but weapons nonetheless. They have other primary uses besides hurting other people. So does the civilian use of guns.

The sale of guns and ammunition is not with the intent to kill people. The purpose of a gun depends on where it is going to - if sold to the military, it's for killing people - if sold to civilians its for protection, hunting, or recreational use. If the sole purpose of selling guns to civilians was for us to kill each other, sure, I'd be against it. But that's not the case.

In primary school (First school) I went around breaking other kids Beyblades. Beyblades were then banned from the whole school, not just me.

All this proves is that your school was run by a bunch of shitsticks.

All this proves is that your school was run by a bunch of shitsticks.

No, no it doesn't. It proves that it's more effective to take the problem away at it's source rather than just cut off the stem and let it grow again.

I'm generally very against them, but if we're going to post facebook bumper stickers, then why not.

There you go.