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oh wtf!

You have to be doing something terribly wrong in RCT/8cars. Like, constantly.

K0NG, out of all the colors to be obsessed with... you choose brown?

your work looks like shit, literally.

^^ Like I mentioned in another topic, I had developed a habit of restoring clearances multiple times (clicking 3-4 times) every time I used the ZC function (never realized or thought about it until these started occurring) without consciously thinking about it...as if to ensure that clearances had been restored. I've made a point to click only once since I realized that I'd been doing that. Otherwise, I don't do anything out of the ordinary ( geewhizz invisible hack, raise/lower land, occasional track and large objects with MOM, ZC objects for layering). I'm starting to wonder if either the DLL's for 8cars are corrupt OR if possibly the bench I use (I use a variation of the same bench for all my projects) might be corrupt.

@RMM....unpainted wood and dirt are typically brown. But, I appreciate your opinion...even if I do think you might spend too much time studying feces if you see things like that in it. Or...maybe it's your diet, I don't know.

You don't know shit about hacking and I do...

...waiting for Cena to post something like that.

Sorry, I can't help you k0ng

ugghhh that sucks K0NG. i really wanted to see the final product.

Also, to add to my previous post...the things I do with 8cars are the same things I've been doing for years...without these problems. That's why I have to wonder if the trainer(s) itself, the DLL's for it or possibly the bench I use has somehow become corrupt. I used to encounter error trappers when I was less familiar with some of the hacks I use, but those have all but stopped (unless I have a brain fart and forget something, which I'm always able to correct)...I just have no idea why the land spikes and black holes seem to always pop up in my parks now. Unless it's one of the things I've mentioned previously. I just know that it's becoming increasingly less fun to play the game when this keeps occurring on pretty much everything I build.

I'm working at a good pace now, but I need a few more days to get it finished. I'm thinking about 23 or 24. Any objections by the other contestants?

Not by me. I've already lost 11 days and have no idea when, or if I'm going to get back to work on this. So any extra time is fine by me.

Honestly the only thing I can think of is some of your custom objects, particularly the diagonal wood poles you made. It seems a few times when I've ZC'd using those I've gotten land towers. I doubt multiple clicks of Restore Clearances does anything as I do that too.

Hmmm...I've seen MT objects ghost when ZC'd but, I don't know that they'd cause land spikes or black holes. I could be wrong...although I've had the problem on projects that didn't even have them in the bench and I've built numerous projects with them without any issues (those objects are pretty old now). Plus, I've never had either a LS or BH anywhere near those objects. You'd think that IF an object caused that, it would be on the tile they occupy or at least on an adjoining one.

Any "expert" opinions on this? I'm curious if I might have fucked up when making those and if they really could be the cause? Because, the more I think about it...I DO use those a lot.

You do know that Leo is one of my closest friends in reallife and that he read your email notification while I was with him? You better send it to Fr3ak.

So...you guys are ALL little bitches? Guess I'm depending on Fr3ak now. If not....good luck to everyone left.

BTW..were you holding hands when you read it together? Or......something else entirely.

We had a threesome at the cinema with a german guy. Happy now?

This thread should be locked until the contest is over.
Since the majoroty of conversation is just bitching between people competing rather than building.

would you like a cup of my finest cocoa beans winston? fair trade? fair trade my ass, west african slaves are busting theire ass picking. so stop bickering, bitching, this is a competition, the best players of our generation, or whats left of them. we need to pull together, act as one because sooner or later rct reaches a conclusion. meaning an end to evolution, EXTINCTION!!!

K0NG, if really no one else will help, you may send it to me. I may not be a "master hacker" (I certainly don't consider myself to be one), but I know my way around winhack and was able to solve a black hole in Hard Rock Park Belgium. I can't guarantee that I will be able to solver your problems, but I can have a look at it. It would be a shame to see you losing because of this.

K0NG what version of 8Cars are you using?

I almost never get black holes, just like maybe once every other project and my last was in RV. I never have used 8Cars to zero clearance, idk why, but I always use the SoB trainer for that. I restore it with 8Cars 1.21 and always try to clear all windows and exit the underground view before I restore it as I heard somewhere that can give you errors.

Re-installing RCT might help. I don't have winhack and have never used it, so I can't help you fix this, but I once fixed a black hole for SA by placing an MT object over it and sending the park (RoB actually) back to him. idk if it was the object, or my game saving the file, but it was gone when he opened the park.

I can only speculate on how to fix this, like real black holes the ones in RCT are also somewhat of a mystery.

I use v1302 for zc and v 1320 for everything else. I usually still have the object window open when I restore but, I never have any view (underground, see through rides, etc.) on when I restore as I read the same thing (in a post by Leo I believe) that you did. I never used to have this issue at all. First time was with my RR Final against Dave ('09, I think?) where I had a massive one that prevented me from finishing. Then, the next time, (really, other than an occasional land spike that I just closed the game out without saving and went back to the last save) was with Vulture....which was an adventure in black hole-ism.
That's what has led me to believe that something has become corrupt. I did un-install/re-install RCT2 towards the end of Vulture...and it seemed to help at least temporarily. The worst part of all this is that I was never a real fast builder to begin with. And, now I build these tiny amounts, zoom out and rotate the map to check for floating objects that signify the damn black holes, then save real quickly before anything appears. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat....so I never get much done any more. And, the damn things STILL pop up out of nowhere. It's never right after I ZC something or use MOM...it's always just out of the blue and usually right after I've closed out the trainers and am ready to save.

And, the thing with the black hole in this project is that it was very well hidden, so I'd changed my oldest save to a version that it was in. It didn't affect any rides...my RR had broken down and one of the mechanics wasn't 'zoned' for one of the stations, so it hadn't been fixed in quite a while (which was a non issue to me) and, once I fixed the mechanic issue and the RR started going again.....boom-error trapper. That's when I realized that there was a big black hole that had taken out a section of the track for the RR.

It's got to the point that I actually dread opening up the game to build sometimes....for fear that it's just going to be for naught.

I just had another thought...could it possibly be the disk itself?

have you evre thought it might be a thing wrong with your standard workbench you always use? maybe something is wrong on a few tiles and this keeps happening due to that? have you tried building with another bench or so to see if it isn't due to that?