RCT Discussion / NE geography
- 19-March 11
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BelgianGuy Offline
I'd say belgium would end up higher because our average players are pretty good looking at Dimi, Kenneth, Splash-O and such
I do think the US and UK would get a beating though with that system. -
K0NG Offline
Agreed, partially because any 'system' has inherent flaws. Ya know...we could always hold an RCT Olympics and see who "gets a beating".....there are some pretty decent players here in the US tooI'd say belgium would end up higher because our average players are pretty good looking at Dimi, Kenneth, Splash-O and such
I do think the US and UK would get a beating though with that system. -
prodigy Offline
Ok, I checked it and I was right:
Germany (posix and fisch already counted as german):
20.128,85 points (26 players)
Netherlands:
26.115,68 points (31 players)
So Netherlands should be on 3 and Germany should be on 4...!
prod -
Liampie Offline
Ok. Here's a qualitatieve approach to the same question: what are the most important RCT regions on a global scale? Is there a RCT capital? What causes differences between regions? Why are so many Dutch, and so little French playing RCT here? Talk! I don't know ig my student license is still working, but maybe I can turn all the information into a map again. Or just graphs, maybe.
RCT regions
Place: Enschede, The Netherlands
Population: 157,587 (2011)
Prominent RCT-players: Levis, Cena
Sum Accolades: 7 + 4 = 11*
Sum Points: 1481.77 + 115.32 = 1597,09*
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants: 0.1*
Points per 1000 inhabitants: 1.0*
* As of February 9, 2012
Place: Uden, The Netherlands
Population: 35,015 (2010)
Prominent RCT-players: Sulakke, Giel, ivo, Bacchus
Sum Accolades: 2 + 1 + 3 + 4 = 10*
Sum Points: 203.78 + 101.91 + 599.53 + 859.64 = 1764.86*
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants: 0.3*
Points per 1000 inhabitants: 50.4*
* As of February 9, 2012
Place: Amsterdam Metropolitan Area, The Netherlands (defintion)
Population: 2,220,000 (2008)
Prominent RCT-players: Evil WME, Liampie (there have to be more! but I have no idea where all these new Dutch guys come from)
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
Place: Mönchengladbach, Germany
Population: 257,993 (2010)
Prominent RCT-players: DelLagos, prodigy
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
Place: North Rhine Westphalia, Germany
Population: 17,845,154 (2010)
Prominent RCT-players: Tolsimir, DelLagos, Faceman, prodigy, Fisch, Turbin3 (confirm), Colorado-Fan (confirm)
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
I don't think North Rhine Westphalia will have spectacular results on a global scale. There are more people living there than in the Netherlands as a whole, though The Netherlands definately has more points. Anyway, it's still worth keeping it in the list since it seems to be a RCt dense area if you look to Germany as a whole. Probably thanks to Phantasialand?
Place: University of Southern California, USA
Population: 36,896 (undergraduates + postgraduates)
Prominent RCT-players: Corkscrewed, Coaster Ed, Panic, K0NG, Fatha,
Sum Accolades:
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Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
I don't think the USC is comparable to towns or regions. It's not actually a spatially bounded area where people live, or is it? By the way, I don't think all of these people lived (?) there at the same time. Doesn't that distort the chart? How many people actually still go to the USC? Is it still as important, RCT-wise?
Place: Southern California, USA
Population: 22,422,614 (2008) (source/definition)
Prominent RCT-players:
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
Because there's no official definition of Southern California, when you add a player to the list, check if he falls under Southern California in the definition as described in the link. It doesn't matter what definition we use, as long as it's the same for the population and the players (and thus points and accolades)
Place: Ohio, USA
Population: 11,544,951 (2011, estimate)
Prominent RCT-players: where's_walto
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
So these are the places/areas mentioned so far. Before we start calculating points and shit, let's try to make this list more complete. It's incredibly nerdy but I enjoy it! -
Louis! Offline
This wont work unless all areas are of a similar category. Southern California and North Rhine Westphalia are regions, so would potentially catch more than a city or town such as Amsterdam or Uden etc.
Also, Southern California as 56,512.35 square miles, the area is actually larger than England (not UK) which is 50,346 square miles.
So technically speaking, you should split Southern California up and have smaller areas (Towns and Cities), or stick to larger regions to enable a better comparison. -
FredD Offline
Why are so many Dutch, and so little French playing RCT here?
I'm sure that there are French who're playing RCT2, but as you know, they are very proud on there own culture and language so they don't come to an American site. That will also be the reason for other countries missing here I guess (with a few exceptions as the Spanish dude).
And the reason why Holland, Germany and Belgium are high on the list, is mainly because of our languages are all German languages. They have the same ancestor, so i think it's easier for us to become part of an English-speaking community. Also, I'm 99% sure of the Belgian dude's over here are Flemish, and not Walloon. As their language is a Roman language. -
Cena Offline
Place: Enschede
Population: 120.000
Prominent RCT-players: Levis, Timvis, Cena,
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants: -
Liampie Offline
Place: Enschede
Population: 120.000
Prominent RCT-players: Levis, Timvis, Cena,
Sum Accolades:
Sum Points:
Accolades per 1000 inhabitants:
Points per 1000 inhabitants:
Timvis is in Enschede as well? Is he on NE, anyway? Doesn't matter for the stats though, he won't have many points. -
Liampie Offline
This wont work unless all areas are of a similar category. Southern California and North Rhine Westphalia are regions, so would potentially catch more than a city or town such as Amsterdam or Uden etc.
Also, Southern California as 56,512.35 square miles, the area is actually larger than England (not UK) which is 50,346 square miles.
So technically speaking, you should split Southern California up and have smaller areas (Towns and Cities), or stick to larger regions to enable a better comparison.
Well in case this was a serious, scientific survey, I'd agree with you. But the point is not to compare regions, but to focus on some unusual high concentrations of RCT players. As I said, a qualitative approach. I think it's fine to pick whatever area definition best describes the high concentration. Moreover, it's debatable whether the regions you describe can be compared better than my selection. Every state has a different organization, with different levels. Second level government in Germany is different to second level government in the USA. Lastly, by limiting yourself to same-level (governmental) regions, e can't look into stuff like Uden, Southern California and Mönchengladbach which is what this is all about.
Who knows... Maybe there is an isolated community, like the South Korean guys were quite isolated from NE before FreeRider started submitting stuff. Maybe France is full of talents and we just don't know. Maybe they're watching us!I'm sure that there are French who're playing RCT2, but as you know, they are very proud on there own culture and language so they don't come to an American site. That will also be the reason for other countries missing here I guess (with a few exceptions as the Spanish dude).
Like Louis I don't see NE as an American site. I love how there are people from every continent on here, and there are always people active from exotic countries like Denmark, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, France, Argentina, The Phillippines, Indonesia and Mexico.
I think people from most of these countries are less likely to join here because their English isn't good enough. In The Netherlands, Belgium and Scandinavia it is well educated. Germany not as much I think, but better than in some southern countries. Secondly, maybe themeparks aren't as popular over there. We have the Efteling as big inspiration source. Germans have Phantasialand. The UK has Alton Towers, and the USA has concrete. People build what people see... And people from Ukraine don't get to see much.And the reason why Holland, Germany and Belgium are high on the list, is mainly because of our languages are all German languages. They have the same ancestor, so i think it's easier for us to become part of an English-speaking community. Also, I'm 99% sure of the Belgian dude's over here are Flemish, and not Walloon. As their language is a Roman language.
I think the Roman and Germanic distinction is bullshit in this case, but on a higher level you might be right. People speaking an Indo-European language are more likely to join than others. Which is probably why it took the Koreans so long to get over here? -
RCTER2 Offline
I am the only spanish here.
I dont know why guys from Italia,Japan,China and India dont play this game. -
K0NG Offline
I think he meant that this is a primarily English speaking site and that the language barrier is what prevents French players from frequenting it.*cough*International Site*cough*
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