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Louis! Offline
^Apart from that is a B&M not a Giovonola which is what Robbie is obviously going for. However, Cena has a point. -
Phatage Offline
It probably is a recreation, just a mirror version, because he's trying to make a realistic sf. The support structure makes it obvious; there's no point to making so many compromises unless he was trying to be as accurate as possible, a laudable goal.
As a side note, I have long theorized that Goliath was a sf strategy to save money. They probably wanted to first save money by putting an exact clone of Raging Bull at SFMM, but it probably wouldn't have fit. Maybe they wanted something scaled up, but without totally redesigning the ride, you can't do that without drastically changing the expected g-forces and velocity, even risking that the train cannot complete the course. The answer, cut out the middle man and have Giovanola design something based on RB but (imo) not designed nearly as well; for one, while enthusiasts love the helix, many guests find it way too intense and so the mcbr is very heavily applied. Anyway, the way this relates back to this park is that Robbie is being less accurate the more he makes this a B&M. -
Austin55 Offline
It's definatly a mirror image Titan/Goliath clone. Look at the direction of the diaganol turn right above where it says 0 Guests.
I do gave to agree with phatage here, the turn is not nearly that upwards shaped, It is very flat and does 'dive' outward towards the next airtime hill.
I have to be picky here since Titan is my favorite coaster I've been
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JDP Offline
Nah, screw the recreations. Just make sure it features all the major elements that make the ride.
And sorry Rob I love your work, but something isn't working for me. I think the supports feel more like a theme rather then doing the job.
-JDP -
Phatage Offline
I still disagree with you on that JDP, I think making a rec as close as possible adds a lot more challenge and its a great accomplishment if one can pull a true rec off effectively within the confines of RCT. I really wish your design was a true rec. -
robbie92 Offline
Just to fill everyone in, I added a few extra braces, and the turn is fixed so it tops out as a flat turn and then dives down. This coaster was made before I went on Goliath, so I didn't think about the smaller things like the turn's shape. However, it's noticable on-ride, so I fixed it to reflect Phatage's/Gee's comments. Imo, it works better.
See? This is why I post screens... The advice is great. -
disneylandian192 Offline
Just to fill everyone in, I added a few extra braces, and the turn is fixed so it tops out as a flat turn and then dives down. This coaster was made before I went on Goliath, so I didn't think about the smaller things like the turn's shape. However, it's noticable on-ride, so I fixed it to reflect Phatage's/Gee's comments. Imo, it works better.
See? This is why I post screens... The advice is great.
Well it sounds great, can't wait to see it in game. -
Cena Offline
I stop playing RCT immediately.When this is finished, this will be my favorite park of all time.
Good to hear Robbie about the turn Is it a mirrerod version of Goliath ? You aren't clear about that. -
RamSam12 Offline
^ My guess would be a mirrored Goliath/Titan or something VERY similar.
What happened to being without RCT2 for the summer? -
robbie92 Offline
Reply Time!
Liampie: What do you mean by ugly? I don't know if it's a compliment or a criticism.
Phatage: I understand what you're saying, and subsequently fixed the turn's structure. However, the braces are gonna remain relatively spare, as is, because I realized that I have maybe 50% of the park done, but around 65% of the object data filled, so I need to spare as many objects as possible.
Cena: This is not an exact rec, but it is mirrored. There's an extra turn or two after the MCBR, and there's a pre-MCBR helix, a la Titan.
RamSam: This upcoming weekend is gonna be my last weekend w/ RCT for some time, so I'll try to finish as much as I can. -
Liampie Offline
Liampie: What do you mean by ugly? I don't know if it's a compliment or a criticism.
It's a great compliment in the context of this concept. -
Liampie Offline
I had the idea of making trampolines but I could never make it as good as yours. The screen is great again, especially the architecture.
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