General Chat / The Art Department

HAHAHAaaaa... no.
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image size is humungo..

Joezia all you images look like someone who's just downloaded photoshop. They're covered in effects and filters that drown out any concept you had originally. I understand your trying to learn each part of the larger tool to improve and experimentation is always good. However what I'm saying feel like its going to be completely wasted but id advise you learn a bit of art theory. Understanding colour theory and basic composition will help your work look better. Having the will to produce off your own back is always applaudable though.

I call this first one "Out of Time"
done in Painter X.
Out of Time

The next is called "Jesus Wept". Also done in Painter.
Jesus Wept

Both images are too large to post here.

^Your art is awsome, the style, the effect, everything. With MS Paint X? I think not. Who made the program you use? The guts on Jesus made me want to cry, almost dizzy. Once again, VERY effective! the 'Out of time' piece was very interesting, made me want to vommmit first seeing, didn't expect anything like that (unless I was the one who made it themewise.) Rock on fellow blood pervert!
*clap clap clap*


I do have a concept. Just because all my art is wrapped around the same topic doesn't mean it has no concept.

THE CONCEPT:
The life has much pain, suffering, and missery. There is no way to rid of it. The best you can do is ignore, but life remains horrible nonetheless. Whether you see it or not, weather you believe it or not. Only few will die happy, and blessed are they. I will not die happy, because that woul mean I would deny the world for all the things to be horrified of. There is deliverance available in faith, but still nothing to be happy about. Like I've said at DeviantART:

'The Shifting Prayer'

From hell on Earth to hell in Hell;
our bleeding hearts, lifeless souls,
breathless tongues and our thirsty lungs..

From our imploding heads to aching feet;
our broken bones, bursting veins,
and poisoned blood in our melting guts..

Haigalay Montolo, Haigalayla Montolo,
Kaiyakka Shakoboro, Kaiyakka Shakoboro!..

The last two lines express well how life only gets worse. The words before made sence, these however are words of a weary mind; A mind that is burning with the radience of a rotting defeat. Speaking with the sound of a clogged throat and an angry tongue, the doomed soul bows before the dragon unwillfully. That person is me.

They're covered in effects and filters that drown out any concept you had originally

Without trying to bullshit your way out of it,what is your concept?

Take your 'down to hell' image. Which called also be called 'lava image, smoke image and a bit of lightning'

If 'Down to Hell' is your title then thats almost your basic concept for your image there and should represent what image you produce. Theres thousands of ways that this could have been represented better. As ive just pointed out it looks like a montage of the stock youve used.

meretrix's 'out of time' is a good example while staying in this thread of a piece of work with concept

oh i'm sick of your pretentious misery, joe. srsly.

It's disgusting, it's vulgar... It's you.

But seriously, how about trying to write something positive? Write something nice, something that has a meaningful message.

I forgot to mention a few things.. The colors, I know they don't go together, I did that with the purpose to display hideousness, not anything beautiful. Thank you for replying positively though.

The burning hole in the palm of my image is shaped like five continents tilted and broken to peices, I wonder why.. The Untited States is a red gap in it, why it's yellowstone of coarse. Tilt your head a bit, you see what I mean?

jaguarkid has true artistic talent. he had an idea, and he followed it through clearly and thoughtfully. it represents the feelings we all had as children. the massive, thin fingered hands represent the fact that when we were that age, we found it difficult to pick feelings up, but we could hold on to them well. the massive, bulging eyes, again represent the naive attitude we had to the world. lastly, the bird-like feet are a metaphor the fact that we all had the potential to "fly" or transcend, but our human selves, riddled with imperfections, hold us back.

Your right ssammy. rrp what did i say that made you so very mad. Why would I lie about entire life? How the hell would you know?

As for the Hell image, it's concept is to capture the amount of pain you could recive from such a place, without ever dying. That is merely a gran of sand compared to all the stuff I could have put in it, you got me there. Sorry I'll make a finned project better next time. Ill tweak this one as well. thanks man!

Edited by JoeZia, 09 June 2010 - 01:41 PM.

Your right ssammy. rrp what did i say that made you so very mad. Why would I lie about entire life? How the hell would you know?

As for the Hell image, it's concept is to capture the amount of pain you could recive from such a place, without ever dying. That is merely a gran of sand compared to all the stuff I could have put in it, you got me there. Sorry I'll make a finned project better next time. Ill tweak this one as well. thanks man!

you made me 'mad as hell'. Im not mad just being blunt. Try and make your image do the explaining rather than explaining what the image is. You don't need to be sorry though, i'm just offering some advise. Like i said in my first post anyone who makes time to produce art should be applauded no matter how terrible the art is.

You should try using traditional materials and a scanner sometime.

stop fighting ladies.

i do graphic design for a number of different bands and labels/bookers.
i design layouts [such as this one i'm in the middle of for a band called Tonight is Glory]
http://imgur.com/0KSC0.jpg
its still very unfinished and sloppy, but you get the general idea.

heres a general sketch idea i've been working on for a shirt design. i still have a whole lot to add, such as crashing waves and sailors. but i'm holding off until i get my wacom tablet in the mail this week. then i'll go back and redo this in Illustrator. [its sketched in photoshop now, so its really bad resolution in some spots]
http://imgur.com/TPVWW.jpg

i also do a number of flyers for shows over here on the southeast coast in florida. heres a few of my recent ones.
http://i.imgur.com/2Js0H.jpg
its fairly simple work, and i make decent extra money from it.
the thing that really seperates my work from other people making flyers around here, is that i typically find good color combinations.
basically, depending on which bands are on the show and the genre of the music, i'll try to make the flyer match that type of setting or mood.

so yes, its not eye-popping crazy good work, but it gets the job done.

i'm actually in the process of starting my own clothing line soon with my buddy. we have all the screen printing stuff, as well as in house designing.
i'll post more details on that soon.

thanks
-josh

I actually am soon finnished with a traditional piece. I'll post it later.

incities: the top right flyer is your best.Its a really nice illustration and everything fits together nicely. Most of the others look like you stole someones image (im not saying you did but thats what it looks like) and slapped some logos and type on it
what does a bear and a boat have to do with 'as the sky awaits'? and the first one would be better with a better grid system at the top. Cant really comment on the bottom because myspace is horribly designed

you'd be good as a mac monkey though,you seem to know your tools pretty well

No not MS Paint.......COREL PAINTER X (which is the Roman Numeral for 10).
Thanks for the kudos.

how do you like painter as opposed to photoshop?

Well, as a frequent user of both programs, I might give my 2 cents, too.
Painter surely has the advantage of being able to simulate multiple surfaces and types of drawing equipment, whereas Photoshop has those huge filtering options and an overall accessability that is unique.
I use Painter mostly for rough sketches and colorizations, while I do every other part of graphical development with Photoshop (effects, filters, presentation).

I use Painter for anything "artistic".....brushes, paper textures, creating painterly effects...then I take that image into PS and light it, transform it, etc.
The programs to me, are inextricably linked.

CHERUBIM

^ It looks like a chimera.....a "frankenstein" construct....not an original being......I just created a "harpy"/griffon creature in my Creature Design class....the crux of good creature design is to amalgamate life forms and produce something new.
The Dragon
The above link is an example. I think your lion and bird faces don't mesh with the wing structure.
This is merely a critique of the work presented. Do not take it personally.