General Chat / Obama Elected President

Why me.

Why me.

Because you have a vagina sir...

That's not true at all!

Prove it... without getting banned. Can we lock this or do you want to debate politics some more?

Why the hell would you lock this thread?

but not your typical "fuck America GWB scares the shit out of me, fuck those fucking Americans and their shittiness warmongering"

Frankly, I don't think there even should be this debate, as woman should do woman jobs and men men jobs

Actually, I think if I was a gay I would support woman's equality, because both of those things are mainstream liberal ideas.

Therefore, if we only train women to do "women jobs" we won't have to worry about feminism.

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I dislike sterotypes. If I were a sterotyper, I would be hypocritical. I'm not so I'm not.

hmm...

My point was, the abortion crowd seems to want to abort more black babies to create a master race

what would you define as "the abortion crowd" and where on earth would you get that idea?
i don't "support" abortion but i think it should be a choice up to the woman. am i a part of the abortion crowd simply because i don't outwardly oppose it? i don't think that's fair.
nor do i think that abortion in any way leans more toward one race or another - if you could come up with a fact to that (that DOESN'T come from that or any other conservative website - we want NEUTRAL information in the intelligent world), i would be glad to see it.

But Juno told me it's ok for teenagers to have kids!

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I recently learned that the Republicans supported the North during the Civil War, and the Democrats supported the South. My world has been thrown into confusion.

I recently learned that the Republicans supported the North during the Civil War, and the Democrats supported the South. My world has been thrown into confusion.

That's how they used to be, yeah. No one other than the blacks were actually abolitionists, they (as in whites) only wanted to get rid of slavery for political reasons.

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Yeah, republicans were originally the liberal party and the dems were conservative. Lincoln started the Republican party I'm pretty sure.

Lincoln started the Republican party I'm pretty sure.

He didn't start it but he was one of the first candidates.

Look, I'm not going to argue with you.

I have told you the truth, you can simply accept it or reject it, at your leisure.

And, to do a quick analogy, if you simply didn't disaprove of random mass murders, i.e., after Colombine you just said, "Whatever," then you and your comrades would surely be labled the "murder crowd," because of your lack of hated for such despicability.

ahh but you see there is a difference between truth and fact, my friend. truth is something that is believed by people - a fact is something that is proven. show me proof that doesn't come from a biased source and maybe we can talk about it. until then, you just look stupid.

but you see for me, columbine and abortion are two different things. columbine was murder in the sense that it was with real, living, breathing people. abortion is with unborn fetuses.
it all just comes down to where you draw the line between living/not living.

If you go by brain activity as being alive, it's while in the womb. If you go by actual memories then no one is "alive" until they're 2-5 years old.

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Frankly, few things bother me more than state-sponsored censorship, it's up to the child's own MOTHERFUCKING PARENTS not Big Brother Government.

so why can't it be the same way with the child's own "MOTHERFUCKING PARENTS" on abortion as well?

and despite there being plenty of space for the human population on this earth, you gotta consider all the other life. plants, animals, bacteria, it all contributes to our lives in some way, and factoring keeping the environments for all that stuff healthy and plentiful, space is running low. and don't give me all that treehugger bullshit. i'm not saying we shouldn't build a home somewhere because there's a tree there, i'm saying if something big becomes extinct we could eventually end up in big trouble.

Lincoln started the Republican party I'm pretty sure.

Yes, Lincoln is regarded as the first Republican. Before that there were Democratic-Republicans (:' />), Democrats, and Whigs.

I did learn recently, however, that Thomas Jefferson was an anti-federalist (opposed to the Constitution). I think it's funny that the man who did so many great things for our country (and was a Democrat), was opposed to the constitution.

I'm also related to John Hancock, who was the first person to sign the Declaration of Independence. My Gov't teacher also said that Washington might not be the first president. It's sort of a debate amongst historians I guess. They think that since Hancock was the president of the 2nd Continental Congress where the Articles of Confederation were drafted, he would be the nations true first president.

Yes, Lincoln is regarded as the first Republican. Before that there were Democratic-Republicans (:' />), Democrats, and Whigs.

I did learn recently, however, that Thomas Jefferson was an anti-federalist (opposed to the Constitution). I think it's funny that the man who did so many great things for our country (and was a Democrat), was opposed to the constitution.

I'm also related to John Hancock, who was the first person to sign the Declaration of Independence. My Gov't teacher also said that Washington might not be the first president. It's sort of a debate amongst historians I guess. They think that since Hancock was the president of the 2nd Continental Congress where the Articles of Confederation were drafted, he would be the nations true first president.

^Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration, completely different from the Constitution. The Declaration was written in the spirit of revolution against England, while the Constitution was meant to keep the country together by creating strong federal control which Jefferson felt violated the revolutionary spirit.

And Kevin, how come you seem so intent on quoting and replying to everyones posts, but choose to completely ignore some posts directly addressed at you with the purpose of you answering questions.

EDIT: wait wrong thread. Just attempting to stay on topic.

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