General Chat / The Future Architects' Thread

That is quite the list for a college campus, especially considering I know of a whole two significant works of architecture in the whole of St Louis and Columbia (where Mizzou is).... the Arch by Saarinen and the Pulitzer building by Tadao Ando. Oh well, at least I got to make the pilgrimage to Fallingwater the other weekend. Speaking of which, anyone interested in me posting a few of my 350 pictures I took while there? If I can find someone to host it would be appreciated. But back on topic, I remember seeing the athletic center in an issue of Record the other month, looked pretty spiffy. Any pictures you do upload would be much appreciated.

Yeah well my school has bland ivy league-wannabe brick buildings like every other preppy liberal arts college on the Eastern Seaboard.

Well, for whoever cares, I have decided to go to Cal majoring in architecture and am looking forward to it. Ill hopefully be rooming with a good friend of mine and have a couple other friends who will be going to Cal as well and I just wish HS were over with at this point.

Did you go to Bridges Senior Weekend?

Yeah well my school has bland ivy league-wannabe brick buildings like every other preppy liberal arts college on the Eastern Seaboard.

That's better than the bomb-shelter boxes that my campus consists of.

Yeah, UoC is architecturally fantastic. I'm jealous.

Pyro and Nate pretty much covered model making. I'd use chipboard for terrain too (use an olfa blade over an exacto blade; your hands will thank you). Or 1/8" foam core (I don't mind as much). For the building, I'd go with bass wood or a different color chip board. If you can just have to make a general shape of the building, you can cut it out of a large block of wood. Or construct it out of bass wood. If you need to show windows but don't want to use plastic, you can always cut out window openings out of 1/32" bass wood and glue that over 1/16" bass so that you see a relief. That's easier than putting plastic to wood.

Not sure why you'd use cork for walls... unless you mean cork for terrain and foam core for walls. Then that makes sense. Although cork as terrain looks pretty good in general, IMO.

In other news, I am *hopefully* halfway through my 1/8"=1'-0" model of my library. This. Is. Taking. WAY. Too. Long.

Gotta make wall sections and set up my drawings to plot by Thursday or Friday too. And then we have to make a book. *sigh* Last push.

Lol yeh cork for the contours and foam core for the walls.

Did you go to Bridges Senior Weekend?

Cant say that I did. I wasnt really up for making the 8 or whatever hour drive. I visited it during the Summer and was gonna check it out again for Cal Day but that didnt end up working out, so I really havent seen much of the campus in detail.

Here are some renderings for one of my 3 week projects (a house for 2). I posted an older version of the project but this is the more up to date version.

Edited by RCTFAN, 01 May 2007 - 09:08 PM.

Cant say that I did. I wasnt really up for making the 8 or whatever hour drive. I visited it during the Summer and was gonna check it out again for Cal Day but that didnt end up working out, so I really havent seen much of the campus in detail.

And you've decided to go there?

Senior weekend and Cal Day were so much fun. All the facilities were open, so you could've probably had all your questions answered. I thought you were maybe in my group, cause there was this kid who couldn't make up his mind between Poly-Pomona, and Cal. You've made a good choice, though.

Just a note for RCTFAN,

Whenever rendering, no matter what direction you're facing, make sure you have the light angled behind you, so as to avoid shadows covering the face of your views (such as your North Elevation). Even if it's not realistically possible to have the coming from that certain direction, it looks a lot better.

'k, so here's a scaled down version of one of the renderings for my library. The project's due Sunday, so I'm basically not happy this week.


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What's cool is that my laptop rendered this sucker (original size 7200x1800 pixels) in less than an hour. When my laptop works, it works pretty darn well (now).

What's cool is that my laptop rendered this sucker (original size 7200x1800 pixels) in less than an hour. When my laptop works, it works pretty darn well (now).

Does it take that long to render a single pic? What program are we talking about btw.

Noted Cork, thanks.

oh and a p.s. our architecture program is no.2 in the nation at the moment I think...so our programs don't suck either...interior design has been no.1 for a long time...our entire design college is very well regarded...and our music college is also pretty well known. Other than that, I see your point...but UC is good for the arts.

wait wait wait. either i've somehow managed to completely miss Cinicinatti, or it is in fact invisible. I think i've gotten a few mailings, and dismissed it as an option on the basis of their music program, which i may be minoring in. apparently i've greatly underestimated them on both accounts.. ? -.-

i probably skipped over them on account of most of my searches necessitating the college having a marching band.

I'm done with my model and project and it turned out fairly good. Here's something to consider--when you spray paint the foam in the foam board, it starts to shrink/dissapear. Made some 2' squared off walls into triangles. :' />

Edited by penguinBOB, 03 May 2007 - 03:58 PM.

wait wait wait. either i've somehow managed to completely miss Cinicinatti, or it is in fact invisible. I think i've gotten a few mailings, and dismissed it as an option on the basis of their music program, which i may be minoring in. apparently i've greatly underestimated them on both accounts.. ? -.-

i probably skipped over them on account of most of my searches necessitating the college having a marching band.

They do have a marching band....and in the most recent rankings by U.S. News and World Report, the College Conservatory of Music at UC was honored as the sixth top university program in the country for pursuing a graduate degree in music. Within the specialty areas of voice and conducting, CCM's programs placed third and fifth, respectively. Other nationally ranked programs include Music Composition, Orchestra/Symphony and Drama. The Musical Theater program is widely considered one of the best in the country.


http://www.ucband.uc...ut.php#marching

http://www.ccm.uc.edu/

Oh yeh, don't let any adhesives or paint equivalent (spray paint) touch the foam, it melts

'k, so here's a scaled down version of one of the renderings for my library. The project's due Sunday, so I'm basically not happy this week.


[Click Me]

What's cool is that my laptop rendered this sucker (original size 7200x1800 pixels) in less than an hour. When my laptop works, it works pretty darn well (now).

Yeah it's that time of year. I'm kind of surprised that you're still going though. All the universities here finished early last month. I've got a whole lot of projects due on the 14th. One includes a 3D project in which we have to draw up and render the Barcelona Pavilion. Being my first time doing such a project, it is amazing how long rendering takes. It's actually quite embarrassing. An hour isn't too bad, especially for such a large image size. Your image isn't too realistic though, so the time seems acceptable. For the record, a less realistic rendering is actually a good thing. I was in a discussion with a technician for an architecture firm I was doing a practicum with and he was saying that when clients see a realistic rendering, they intuitively assume that the final product is supposed to look exactly like it. When the final product doesn't look like the rendering the firm may have some explaining to do. This is part of the reason SketchUp is widely accepted by the architectural community. When clients see a SketchUp rendering they understand that it is only a representation of the final product.

What did you use? VIZ, Max?

thanks becky. the question remains, though; how about the architecture program?
and engineering?
-.-
it actually sounds like i'm well covered no matter what major i choose there... i still can't figure out why i overlooked them.
i think i've even seen the Bearcat marching band perform.
i guess i'm wedged between OSU and Capital university here, and any other music programs kind of get shoved aside.

Edited by ][ntamin22, 03 May 2007 - 09:27 PM.

Doesn't Viz and Max use the same renderer? They are both owned by Autodesk now (they really have themselves a monopoly on architectural software) and I think both use Mental Ray.

Thats an interesting thought about the less detailed rendering nate, but it makes a lot of sense. I have always been very partial to the renderings from sketch up, it is a lot easier to get good looking images. Because with any of the more detailed renderers it takes considerable work to make a convincing image, otherwise you can tell they were going for photorealistic but it came off as cheesy.

Does it take that long to render a single pic? What program are we talking about btw.

Form Z.

It always depends on what's in the photo, how much detail, the material types, and most importantly, the light settings. I had about 15 different lights in there, so for my laptop, it was very impressive (before I added more RAM, it prolly would have taken forever, because it would have crashed after seven hours ).

I was in a discussion with a technician for an architecture firm I was doing a practicum with and he was saying that when clients see a realistic rendering, they intuitively assume that the final product is supposed to look exactly like it. When the final product doesn't look like the rendering the firm may have some explaining to do. This is part of the reason SketchUp is widely accepted by the architectural community. When clients see a SketchUp rendering they understand that it is only a representation of the final product.

Quoted for truth.