General Chat / New Intel Macs

Just saw this on the Apple homepage. They've finally made the switch to Intel chips. And produced two beautiful computers; the MacBook and the iMac. Both look gorgeous.

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Well now they've just added an unnecessary expense by using Intel chips to an already overpriced product. If they had gone with AMD, they could have had a lower price with much more flexibility and speed.

It's funny how people like to play on Apple's overpricing on things...when imo the extra price you pay is worth it...all the time.

Why is it worth it? Please provide evidence.
Anways, both of those computers look exactly the same as their old ones.

It's funny how people like to play on Apple's overpricing on things...when imo the extra price you pay is worth it...all the time.

I'm not saying it's not worth the money, but they don't have any competition for their particular product. If you don't allow other manufacturers to build using your platform, you can set the price to be what you want. This is what Apple has done with all their products. Don't license the software/hardware and charge what they want. That's part of the reason they don't have more of the PC market share.

And now they've added the higher prices associated with Intel chips. Intel is overpriced for what you get. AMD chips have consistently outperformed Intel chips when comparable products are available. Plus, AMD consistently costs less than Intel.

It's just that Apple needs to allow for other PC manufacturers to provide the MAC OS available on those manufacturer's products. Apple has no direct competition and thusly has kept their prices high as a result.

I don't think looks are the point, Bruckner.

I thought they were all saying they were going to be cheaper... day-um. That's a set-back. Oh well... with my new job I should have enough to put a good DP on it and finace the rest in a month or so. Can't wait!

But then again... they MacBook Pro also comes out in a month... decisions decisions....

It's great news. I think they're supposed to run cooler aswell; a major plus relative to my current Powerbook. The MacBook Pro looks like it is made of a darker metal. I wish they would release it in a 12" version, then I might buy one! I can't afford a new one for a few years, so I don't think it matters all that much.

Why is it worth it? Well, here are my reasons for why it is worth it.
-Everything works. Period.
-Beautiful Design. Not only are they the best looking computers ever manufactured, they are very well designed. Their laptops don't have any latches or such which could break. The MacBook Pro has a built in camera at the top of the screen. How is that possible?
-Security. It has been argued that Mac's are just as suseptable to virus as any PC, and this may be true. Apparently however, Apple doesn't attract that kind of clientel.
-Ergonomic. The power cord attaches magnetically so if someone trips over the cord, the computer doesn't go with it. An illuminated keyboard with built in light sensor. Scrolling feature for the track pad. Sudden motion sensor detects falling (I know IBM was first with this). Remote control included.

Weird, because I've heard that AMD fell behind Intel, which is part of the reason that Intel sort of "won" the processor wars (obviously, AMD's popularity has declined significantly).

But that could just be pop culture talk or whatever. I don't really know enough about computers to be able to tell.

I've read this before. What's the point of having a Mac if it's gonna use the same stuff as a normal PC?
Macs don't attract me since most games won't run on it as more other programs.
These Intel Mac can't run on window XP btw, although that's not completely suprising, but still funny for an Intel board

It's not overpriced when you never get viruses on macs, but you have to replace your stuipd PC because it died of a virus.

The new Intel Mac's ARE capeable of running Windows XP, it just has to be unlocked. It will definately run Vista out of the box, no unlocking needed.

As for the viruses... inside the new intel mac's it says something to the liken of "If you're a hacker, stay away" n what not... i'll try to find where I read it, either digg or engadget.


Found it...

"The OSx86 Project has some exclusive information regarding Apple's newest portable, the MacBook Pro, and a hidden message inside for would-be hackers. Is this simply a hidden message for the interested parties, or is it a new tounge-in-cheek implementation of OS X’s TPM security?"

http://www.osx86proj...&id=89&Itemid=2

I'm going to get mine around April. Just waiting for all the bugs, problems etc. to be fixed when it comes out.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to hope onto the Apple bandwagon. Everything you argued is fairly benign. The only reason Apple computers do not have as many problems with security is because no one cares enough to bother with Apple computer as only 5% of the comptuer user market uses them. Sure they might look good, but are you really looking at your computer while you use it? I mean, do the looks of your computer affect its performace etcetera? There are no viruses which physicaly destroy your computer, nice try, the worst that can happen is that your boot sector gets fucked and you have to reformat.

Corkscrewed, AMD is only gaining market share and their chips are superior to Intel's.

The end of it all is that I am not going to pay a huge mark up for something that looks pretty, doesn't perform very well, and has a rudimentary OS. No thanks, sir.

Note to all you hoping to dual boot XP on these new Macs -like I was- you can not do so. This is due to Apple deciding to use EFI instead of the standard BIOS. There is rumors of a version of MCE XP that allows use of EFI but until this is confirmed Dual Booting will have to wait for Vista which will use EFI and BIOS will finally die. EFI is hackable though but from what I have gathered its rather complicated. Also there are rumors floating around of a Mac version of DirectX coming which would make a majority of the mainstream PC games easily coded for Macs including Half-Life 2. And the last rumor is that alot more stuff was supposed to be released but due to a shortage of Intel chips Apple decided to halt the announcements of those products until the chips become more readily available. More on the last thing here.

*Hopes for Intel Mac Mini before March*

Edited by chapelz, 14 January 2006 - 11:07 PM.

Too bad DirectX is going away as we know it. As soon as Vista hits 9.0c is gone.

Too bad a majority of the games that arent coded for Macs arent coded because of DirectX thus solving the gaming argument. And if DirectX isn't going to be use anymore you Anti-Mac people just lost an arguement point. <3

Edited by chapelz, 14 January 2006 - 11:11 PM.

I don't get it. The new version of Windows will have the new type of DirectX, thus putting Apple one step behind again.

So you think once Microsoft starts supporting Apples with DirectX they are going to stop just because they switched OS?

Edited by chapelz, 14 January 2006 - 11:27 PM.

Nevermind, we are not understanding each other.