General Chat / Six Flags Great Adventure to get Bull
- 28-September 05
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Corkscrewed Offline
http://www.sixflags....ofactsheet.html
EL TORO FACT SHEET
What:
Out-and-back hybrid†wooden coaster, offering four linear hair-raising drops (out-and-back design) with a beastly, twisted finale of multiple highly-banked curves (twister design).
El Toro marries the smooth ride, height, speed and exciting twisting elements of steel
coasters with a classic wooden design.
Record and claims:
Ranks as the second tallest and fastest wooden coaster in the U.S. with the second longest drop. El Toro will be the third tallest and fastest in the world. This coaster breaks the world record for steepest wooden coaster drop at 76 degrees.
Maximum Speed: 70 mph
Lift height: 181 feet
First drop angle: 76 degrees
First drop length: 176 feet
Ride time: 1 minute, 42 seconds
Load/Unload time: 1 minute, 10 seconds
Length of Track: 4,400 feet
No. of trains: 2
Cars per train: 6
Passengers per train: 36
Hill heights:
Second hill: 112 feet
Third hill: 100 feet
Fourth hill: 82 feet
Airtime hills: 7
Airtime S turns: 2
Ride Capacity: 1,500 per hour
FUN FACTS
• Of 14 coasters, El Toro is Six Flags Great Adventure’s second wooden coaster
• Rolling Thunder, the park’s first wooden coaster, was built in the winter of 1978 and opened to the public in the spring of 1979
• Rolling Thunder cruises at 56 mph, El Toro flies at 70 mph
• Rolling Thunder’s first drop is 85 feet, El Toro’s is more than twice as tall at 176 feet
• Rolling Thunder’s first drop is 45 degrees, and El Toro’s is a teeth-chattering 76 degrees
El Toro’s lift hill parts:
• 40,000 lbs. of bolts, nuts, washers, dowels
• Approx. 9,000 wood pieces stretching 17.2 miles
El Toro’s track parts:
• 180 sections of track comprised of 180 left and 180 right rails upon which the coaster train rides
• Average length of each track section - approx. 25 feet
• Average weight of one rail - 1,150 lbs.
• Approx. weight of El Toro’s entire track - 400,000 lbs.
El Toro’s entire coaster parts collection:
• 155,000 lbs. of bolts, nuts, washers, dowels
• 34,000 wood pieces stretching 70.3 miles – the same distance from Six Flags Great Adventure (Jackson Township, Ocean County, NJ) to New York City
Opening Date: Spring, 2006
Watch the animation.
Maybe Raven will be happy w/ the park again. Intamin Wood can only mean one thing: awesomeness. -
Wolfman Offline
Best Speedy Gonzales voice:
Watch out for that first drop Senior Pussy Cat!
YEE HAA! Undele! El Toro! YEE HAA! YEE HAA! Areba!
Okay, this Gringo was never any good at Espaniol. -
Phatage Offline
The important thing is that there's a walkway underneath one of the larger hills so traffic won't be all confusing like it was this year when the viper area was closed off.
I miss viper.
This looks nice though, have heard only good things from this type of artificial woodie. I'm a little worried for intamin 2 train operation, as really it would be hard to decide to waste the first and shortest line ride for this or Ka in the morning. Not sure if I like it right next to rt but it was obvious it was going there ever since viper was cleared away and the station was intact. Hope they put the bull ride back and maybe even get back sombrero, and I'm curious as to what this family ride they speak of is. And if SF signed with Pepsi instead of fuckin Coke, I would've had a taco bell in my homepark, but nooo. -
yeshli2nuts Offline
thats right bitches, another sweet coaster to my home park. kingda ka and this two years in a row? my answer to them is lots of visits which equals my money next year. that drop just looks sick http://www.sixflags....es/dropside.jpg -
tyandor Offline
They have a weird sense of humor calling it a 'hybrid out-and-back twister'. The have a two normal twister curves and the rest is some ground turns... Sorry, but that just doesn't justify the 'twister' element of the ride...
Ah well it's probably a good ride, but I think that that voyage thing is better. Just hope this ride just operates more then Kingda Ka -
yeshli2nuts Offline
there arent really any pictures of that part but did you watch the video? after the first four or so hills, the second part of the ride consists of about six changes of direction with minimal change of eleveation. i'd say thats a pretty darn good piece of twister coaster right there.They have a weird sense of humor calling it a 'hybrid out-and-back twister'. The have a two normal twister curves and the rest is some ground turns... Sorry, but that just doesn't justify the 'twister' element of the ride...
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Corkscrewed Offline
Two train operation is actually usually the most efficient on a woodie, since you don't have to worry about stacking and you're not limited by single train operation. Ghostrider at Knott's Berry Farm, for example, would absolutely suck on three train operation (and it's got a mid course brake run... something El Toro does not) because the crews wouldn't be able to get the trains out on time.I'm a little worried for intamin 2 train operation, as really it would be hard to decide to waste the first and shortest line ride for this or Ka in the morning.
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cg? Offline
It looks good, but not as good as The Voyage, or the hype. Certainly not enough to make me want to fly out! Still, the drop looks great, and the twister bit should be awesome.
Also, wouldn't 3 train operation be possible with a duel-station? And wouldn't that get rid of a lot of the problems with normal 3 train operation (midcourse brakes, stacking, etc)? -
Xcoaster Offline
I'd call it an out-and-back/twister. It looks like it has two big turns, several other twists, and a lot of ground twists. Not a whole bunch of helices, but I think a twister just implies that it has a lot of banked, horizontal movement, which it certainly does.They have a weird sense of humor calling it a 'hybrid out-and-back twister'. The have a two normal twister curves and the rest is some ground turns... Sorry, but that just doesn't justify the 'twister' element of the ride...
Ah well it's probably a good ride, but I think that that voyage thing is better. Just hope this ride just operates more then Kingda Ka
I don't think comparing it to The Voyage is very fair. The Voyage looks like it's in a class of it's own compared to nearly all other wooden coasters. -
cg? Offline
I think comparing it to The Voyage is extremely fair. They're both massive wooden rollercoasters, which begin as an out and back, end as a twister, and both claim the title of steepest wooden in America! How do you not compare them? -
Xcoaster Offline
I suppose it probably is the closest thing to the Voyage, along with Hades, Colossos, and SOB. I'm just saying that it's going to take a whole lot to beat the Voyage. They went all out on that thing, and then some. And then some more.I think comparing it to The Voyage is extremely fair. They're both massive wooden rollercoasters, which begin as an out and back, end as a twister, and both claim the title of steepest wooden in America! How do you not compare them?
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The Drizzle Offline
Cedar Point needs to take notes. NOW.
Can't wait for Tatsu (supposed SFMM flyer name) to be announced. Cedar Point needs kick in the ass to build a new coaster. How about a 2-coaster Intamin Woodie/B&M Flyer addition. Ha yeah right. -
ekimmel Offline
I think the layout of El Toro sucks compared to The Voyage but it's still good to see more big woodies getting installed. -
Raven-SDI Offline
Hello.
I have been waiting for new pine for eons for GADV. The layout isnt extraordinary, but w/e, beggers can't be choosers.
I'll gladly ride this opening day. Plus th efirst drop looks nuts.
Raven-SDI
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ACEfanatic02 Offline
Damn.....
Wish PKD wouldve gotten somthing like that instead of the Italian Job... damn Paramount.
-ACE
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