General Chat / Michael is not-guilty

I'm looking at the man in the mirrior.
You must admit the shim (i cannot refer to him as man) had incredible talent. Most likly one of the best pop-rock stars of our time.

The fact that he's Michael Jackson shouldn't have any bearing on this case. Maybe he was once a great singer and maybe he's had some plastic surgery he refuses to admit, but none of that has anything to do with whether or not he mollested children. You shouldn't defend Michael because you like him anymore than you should want to see him in jail because "he's a freak". Same with Kobe Bryant or OJ Simpson or anyone else. None of us knows what actually happened, and the people in the jury know a lot more about the evidence than we do. We have to trust that they were in the best position to make a judgement and the judgement they made is what we stick by. If we don't believe the court system works, than it needs to change. It's that simple.

I don't really think people want to see him hanged like they make it out to be. I find Americas infatuation with him extremly funny.

The fact that he's Michael Jackson shouldn't have any bearing on this case. Maybe he was once a great singer and maybe he's had some plastic surgery he refuses to admit, but none of that has anything to do with whether or not he mollested children. You shouldn't defend Michael because you like him anymore than you should want to see him in jail because "he's a freak". Same with Kobe Bryant or OJ Simpson or anyone else. None of us knows what actually happened, and the people in the jury know a lot more about the evidence than we do. We have to trust that they were in the best position to make a judgement and the judgement they made is what we stick by. If we don't believe the court system works, than it needs to change. It's that simple.

Exactly.

ps Disney should bring back Captain EO, just for comedy's sake. get rid of, whatever they put in Captain EO's place, because it's obviously not as good as Captain EO.

The fact that he's Michael Jackson shouldn't have any bearing on this case. Maybe he was once a great singer and maybe he's had some plastic surgery he refuses to admit, but none of that has anything to do with whether or not he mollested children. You shouldn't defend Michael because you like him anymore than you should want to see him in jail because "he's a freak". Same with Kobe Bryant or OJ Simpson or anyone else. None of us knows what actually happened, and the people in the jury know a lot more about the evidence than we do. We have to trust that they were in the best position to make a judgement and the judgement they made is what we stick by. If we don't believe the court system works, than it needs to change. It's that simple.

If that was because of my comment, i wasn't serious.

if that means anything.

I never got to see EO.

If that was because of my comment, i wasn't serious. 

if that means anything.

No it wasn't because of your comment. That's just my opinion on the whole Michael Jackson/Kobe Bryant/OJ Simpson/Martha Stewert celebrity court case parade. Clearly image holds a lot more power than truth in this society. And that is a sad, sad reality.

well it's America, what do you expect.

Celebrities are more important than EVERYTHING.

It isn't this society Ed. This quality has always been consistent throughout the ages.

Well, that's true. And it's a major shortcoming in human nature. It seems like we'd eventually outgrow that kind of stupidity. I mean, clearly that isn't beneficial for the continued existence of the species. Why can't we just, evolve or something?

I don't think this is something you can remove through genetic mutation and natural selection. There is no advantage to not being so self consusmed.

There is your answer.

Well, we probably wouldn't kill each other so much if we actually listened to each other. But yeah, I was kidding about the evolution thing. Natural selection doesn't work that way.

It seems like people were more selfish and self consumed in the middle ages then now to me.
but maybe it's just me?

If the rubber does not fit.

You must acquit.

I've always loved the OJ case quote...nice twist on it...haha.

I really do get angered over people who take the "he's a celebrity so he must've done it but will get away with it approach"...and I agree with Coaster ed completely.

While I try not to sway to either opinion, I could've help but think he was innocent. I know he's weird and freakish (you have to admit, he makes kickass music though), but I still had a really hard time believing that he did it...not to mention after hearing some details about the case and prosecution that made me go hmmm.

Everybody's so selfish nowadays.

So he didn't molest children... Alright. How the fuck did he get out of the charges of giving alcohol to minors?

Was that decided in todays ruling?

To play a bit of devil's advocate, the jury was instructed that any reasonable double meant not guilty. "Not guilty" doesn't mean Jackson did not molest the kid. It just means there isn't proof that he did. The fact that the frickin family is one big scam artist gang didn''t really help matters either.

But basically, because there wasn't convincing proof that Jackson did molest him, he could not be convicted. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Basis of America's court system.

That said, I think the guy's pretty mentally unstable. I don't doubt that he's done some questionable things with kids. To the point of mollesting them? maybe not, but still stuff that you wouldn't brag about.



Or maybe deep down inside, he's still that 5 year old member of the Jackson 5 who just loves children in a childlike way. Psychologically speaking, it could be valid as a mentality.

Anyway, you can proceed.

I really have to agree with the "deep down thing."
Maybe that is why he music is do damn good because it isn't clouded by adult life.

I read an interesting essay on this during my SAT.

To play a bit of devil's advocate, the jury was instructed that any reasonable double meant not guilty.  "Not guilty" doesn't mean Jackson did not molest the kid.  It just means there isn't proof that he did.  The fact that the frickin family is one big scam artist gang didn''t really help matters either.

But basically, because there wasn't convincing proof that Jackson did molest him, he could not be convicted.  Innocent until PROVEN guilty.  Basis of America's court system.

Very well said, Corkscrewed. There just wasn't enough evidence to prove anything and being a freak in this country still isn't illegal. Maybe next time they'll have enough.