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The TTC is a must, i've toyed with the idea many times.

If I do it, it'll probably be the TTC structure and the parking lot/garage. Nothing more, and just for fun

I feel like this is the first and only park in history to have a strong shot at spotlight, while still in the scenario editor.

Incredible.

I appreciate the confidence, but I don't believe this park is Spotlight quality. A spotlight park is everything, and I can guarantee my rides won't be much to look at.

Do you know what you need? A website to advertise this park with, with all the screenshots, because some do not work now, all these years later.

And, more importantly, to explain the fundamentals of the park. Give us a breif descirption of each area, with details. Or not so breif. Unless you do not want to. Then do not. It is just that I love that kind of thing, I know, I am weird like that, but whatever........

You don't need good rides for this park, the scenery already makes it worthy of being a high ranking spotlight.

It doesn't give me the wow-feeling.
First of all, there are many ugly objects in your park that doesn't fit in the original graphics.

I'm curious to know, what ever happened to the Mermaid Lagoon area of the park?

I think he said he ran out of room.

I, personally, am thrilled by this, because I hate all the stupid Disney Characters. Mind you, I have only ever been to DisneyWorld Florida, but they ruin the whole thing. EPCOT used to have a SICK ride called the Living Seas that I went on when I was about four or five, and you went through an underwater tunnel and encountered fish and sharks (I think). Plus, the line had an awesome Jules Verne-esque theme, with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea decor and movie posters and awesomeness. Now, it is an utterly horrid pavillion, the worst in the park, by far, because stupid Finding Nemo was made. The line is now full of hideous stupid fish from that horrible moving (nothing is worse than that wretched, vile, horrible style of movie-making, and Disney has not made a good children's movies since I do not know when) and the ride is gone, and some stupid interactive thing with that wretched, idiotic turtle is there. To this day, I refuse to enter that pavillion, which is a disgrace to EPCOT, Disney's best park, in my opinion.

It was originally intended that the stupid Disney characters would be kept in the Magic Kingdom, and I think they should have done more than that, keeping them in Fantasyland, and Mickey's ToonTown Fairground, and maybe the children's sections of the other parks. The exception to this, of course, would be subtle, tasteful Mickey heads in the ice cream bars and on hotel balconies. But that would be it. Now all the retarded characters are just...ughh everywhere.

Anyways, the fact that the Little Mermaid is being kept out of DisneySea by Iceman thrills me to no end.

EDIT: How long do you expect to be in the actual game, i.e. post-Scenario Editor, i.e. making rides, i.e. roller coasters, Iceman?

Edited by Kevin_Enns, 16 September 2007 - 05:18 PM.

First of all, there are many ugly objects in your park that doesn't fit in the original graphics.

They all fit in fine imo. I don't use objects I feel don't fit with the game.

I'm curious to know, what ever happened to the Mermaid Lagoon area of the park?

I ran out of room. I really wanted to do this area, but the spot that it occupies in the real thing turned out to be crammed too close to the neighboring lands for my liking.

I think he said he ran out of room.

I, personally, am thrilled by this, because I hate all the stupid Disney Characters. Mind you, I have only ever been to DisneyWorld Florida, but they ruin the whole thing. EPCOT used to have a SICK ride called the Living Seas that I went on when I was about four or five, and you went through an underwater tunnel and encountered fish and sharks (I think). Plus, the line had an awesome Jules Verne-esque theme, with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea decor and movie posters and awesomeness. Now, it is an utterly horrid pavillion, the worst in the park, by far, because stupid Finding Nemo was made. The line is now full of hideous stupid fish from that horrible moving (nothing is worse than that wretched, vile, horrible style of movie-making, and Disney has not made a good children's movies since I do not know when) and the ride is gone, and some stupid interactive thing with that wretched, idiotic turtle is there. To this day, I refuse to enter that pavillion, which is a disgrace to EPCOT, Disney's best park, in my opinion.

It was originally intended that the stupid Disney characters would be kept in the Magic Kingdom, and I think they should have done more than that, keeping them in Fantasyland, and Mickey's ToonTown Fairground, and maybe the children's sections of the other parks. The exception to this, of course, would be subtle, tasteful Mickey heads in the ice cream bars and on hotel balconies. But that would be it. Now all the retarded characters are just...ughh everywhere.

Anyways, the fact that the Little Mermaid is being kept out of DisneySea by Iceman thrills me to no end.

EDIT: How long do you expect to be in the actual game, i.e. post-Scenario Editor, i.e. making rides, i.e. roller coasters, Iceman?

Well, I definately don't agree with you on the "Disney characters should only be in the Magic Kingdoms" thing, but yeah DisneySea only has 2 lands representing Disney characters: Arabian Coast and Mermaid Lagoon. I'm sad ML had to be cut, but sacrifices had to be made.
I'm expecting once I'm out of the SE I should only be in the actual game for about a months time.

I think he said he ran out of room.

I, personally, am thrilled by this, because I hate all the stupid Disney Characters. Mind you, I have only ever been to DisneyWorld Florida, but they ruin the whole thing. EPCOT used to have a SICK ride called the Living Seas that I went on when I was about four or five, and you went through an underwater tunnel and encountered fish and sharks (I think). Plus, the line had an awesome Jules Verne-esque theme, with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea decor and movie posters and awesomeness. Now, it is an utterly horrid pavillion, the worst in the park, by far, because stupid Finding Nemo was made. The line is now full of hideous stupid fish from that horrible moving (nothing is worse than that wretched, vile, horrible style of movie-making, and Disney has not made a good children's movies since I do not know when) and the ride is gone, and some stupid interactive thing with that wretched, idiotic turtle is there. To this day, I refuse to enter that pavillion, which is a disgrace to EPCOT, Disney's best park, in my opinion.

It was originally intended that the stupid Disney characters would be kept in the Magic Kingdom, and I think they should have done more than that, keeping them in Fantasyland, and Mickey's ToonTown Fairground, and maybe the children's sections of the other parks. The exception to this, of course, would be subtle, tasteful Mickey heads in the ice cream bars and on hotel balconies. But that would be it. Now all the retarded characters are just...ughh everywhere.

Anyways, the fact that the Little Mermaid is being kept out of DisneySea by Iceman thrills me to no end.

EDIT: How long do you expect to be in the actual game, i.e. post-Scenario Editor, i.e. making rides, i.e. roller coasters, Iceman?

You're a very hateful person. Apparently your religion isn't working for you.

Didn't Finding Nemo win like 'Best Animated Feature' at the Oscars? Wouldn't that qualify as a "good children's movie", Kevin?

I've also recently discovered that most movies geared towards children aren't even really for children, but that's nothing new I'm sure.

@Iceman: LOL That you only need a month for the game, a mere 4% of the time, or so, in the SE. BY THE WAY, how many rides can we expect, and, of those, how many are Roller Coasters and Water Rides???

@Midnight Aurora: My religion, Christianity, is working absolutely completley flawlessly for me, and will for ABSOLUTELY ANYONE AT ALL if they convert. Please do, so you can go to Heaven and not Hell, and you will see that it is true. And I am not as hateful as everyone (not just you NEers) thinks I am.

@Steve: Well. the Oscars think they are all that but I found Finding Nemo terrible. Good children's movies are the old Mickey Mouse things, and some Disney movies, but not the new stuff. The ones that Walt himself touched are generally on the order of 40 times as good as the ones he did not. Anyways, to each his own. Also, that is nothing new.

Wait. What? Stupid Disney characters?

Without the characters, there would be no Disneyland or World. They are icons to all the millions of people who don't go to theme parks on a regular bases like some of us. Many of them have no idea what to expect when they come to Disney World, what they do recognize are the characters and faces from all the movies and Disney Channel.

Like you said, EPCOT was not supposed to have any of the characters in it. So how come there are characters there now? Disney quickly realized that people wanted the characters.

Have you done The Living Seas since they changed it to Nemo? It's actually much better than the lame movie and Hydrolator that were there before.

P.S. The park looks amaaaaaaazing!

@Midnight Aurora: My religion, Christianity, is working absolutely completley flawlessly for me, and will for ABSOLUTELY ANYONE AT ALL if they convert. Please do, so you can go to Heaven and not Hell, and you will see that it is true. And I am not as hateful as everyone (not just you NEers) thinks I am.

I might be more inclined to listen to your opinion if you didn't demonize me in the process.

If someone were truly interested in finding out more about converting to Christianity, they would find soon enough that non-believers are going to hell.

-disneylhand

Wow, I really have to disagree with you on pretty much everything you said Kevin.

Firstly, Epcot is in the best shape it's been in years. When Epcot opened, many people came expecting to see their favorite Disney characters just like they could at the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland. When they didn't see these characters, the complaints were enormous. Thus, Disney did as the guest wanted and began putting characters into Epcot. In regards to your Living Seas comment, ever since Turtle Talk with Crush and Nemo's Undersea Adventure opened, attendance at that pavilion has never been higher. The inside looks refreshed, and the characters fit with the pavilion. Now, if you didn't like the movie, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion, but there's no denying that adding the Finding Nemo stuff to the Living Seas has revitalized a dying pavilion.

I can't even begin to express my disbelief at your comment regarding the animated films. Can you really tell me that films such as Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and the Lion King aren't good because Walt Disney didn't touch them? If you didn't like these films because you just didn't enjoy them, then that's understandable, but it sounds to me that in your opinion, they aren't good because Walt didn't have anything to do with them. B&B is by far my favorite Disney film, it's a great story with wonderful animation, songs, and characters. I think Walt himself would have been thrilled with it.

That's my opinion on your takes. Granted, you are entitled to your own ideas about these subjects, I just feel that they are unwarranted.

I find buildings lack of details.

Let's all just agree to disagree, then.

To be honest, I really can not say much about the newer Disney films because I never liked cartoons anyways, and when they came out, I was already watching real movies, but things like Snow White always seemed better to me than Aladdin.

Midnight Aurora: I can assure you you are not a demon.

Actually I think if you look at the history of the parks, Kevin kind of has a point. Characters were not to be the main focus of the Disney parks. Disney parks were supposed to be all about creating incredibly authentic experiences in highly themed environments, the idea of total immersion. Now, part of the reason for the parks was to provide a home for the characters, but that was to stay in Fantasyland. I can't think of a single original/classic attraction outside of Fantasyland that had any preexisting Disney characters. And Epcot especially was meant to be completely free of them. Hell, Epcot was originally supposed to be a fully functioning city. Epcot's focus was on real world learning and technology, experiencing very real and relevant information in a fun way. So in a way, Finding Nemo at the Living Seas is kind of a slap in the face of the original concept. That was a lot of people's complaints with the way Imagineering was run under Eisner, he was far too much into branding and would take the cheap cop out slap a few characters on a ride rather than create a worthwhile memorable experience.

Not saying it is necessarily a bad approach, adding the characters does create some of what we recognize as the atmosphere of a Disney park today and can actually enhance the experience of the ride and movie if done right. It's just when they are used poorly, it can also really ruin attractions.

I wouldn't worry about the Disney capitalizing on their theme parks using characters and horrible movies like the High School Musical franchise. The same thing is like Disney making their direct to DVD releases. Since Disney is trying to reboot their classical animated films, they are trying to sell every small piece of film they can and pass it off as a direct sequel to sell what little they can from the failing animation department. Since they rerouted to Pixar, they are starting to go insane their too. Now we have make bad remakes and sequels being put out on a converyor belt. It won't last though. The same thing happened in the early 80s with Epcot. Disney began putting as much of its classic charm into its media and theme parks as possible and people began thinking how much Disney had decline in those years. That's why is infamously known as the Miller Era which Disney fans speak of. That's why the Disney decade was needed and if you notice now the same thing is going on with Epcot, but now its California Adventure. By 2015 when all these changes are expected to take place and finish, all this pish posh with Disney-Pixar all over the place will be gone, for awhile at least.

Since Disney is trying to reboot their classical animated films, they are trying to sell every small piece of film they can and pass it off as a direct sequel to sell what little they can from the failing animation department. Since they rerouted to Pixar, they are starting to go insane their too. Now we have make bad remakes and sequels being put out on a converyor belt.

The sequels were all stopped over a year ago. The huge influx of Pixar attractions had the green light. The quick changes taking place at EPCOT Center just for next Monday are the real types of changes. What you've described is already taking place.

I know that was the point.