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Well, to me anyways, it just sounds like Keane are one of those bands that have decided to steal Coldplay's sound in an attempt to make music. I hate Coldplay but I can understand why people like it. However I can't understand why everyone likes Keane so much. If Keane could muster one ounce of orignality, then maybe they'd interest me but at the moment, there inexplicably mundane.

Well, to me anyways, it just sounds like Keane are one of those bands that have decided to steal Coldplay's sound in an attempt to make music. I hate Coldplay but I can understand why people like it. However I can't understand why everyone likes Keane so much. If Keane could muster one ounce of orignality, then maybe they'd interest me but at the moment, there inexplicably mundane.

I find Keane quite different to coldplay. As in, I don't particularly like Coldplay, but find Keane pretty good. Just because coldplay did kinda slow rock, doesn't mean keane copied them by doing slow rock.

I can't really stand rap etc. Probably because I only hear the famous, publicised stuff on the radio and on TV and when people put their CD's on in the school common room. Ie. I can't think of anything worse than 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg. The lyrics are abysmal alongside pretty much everything else about them. But there probably is rap somewhere that i like. Rap can sound good in some cases like when put with tunes, or something different like Jay z did with Lp and I don't mind Eminiem. They aren't the best stuff I've ever heard, but way more listenable than most rap I've heard.

Simple Plan is not emo, wherever you got that idea from, ignore. I don't like simple plan.

Greenday annoy me. They aren't actually that bad, but they are way overplayed. And all their stuff is very similar, even their older stuff. Boulevard was alright on the first few listens, but it annoys me now. I never really liked American Idiot, it just seemed to be a combination of about 5 of their older songs. And it was also overplayed.

Like Pbob. I don't like Nirvana, nor do I like Metallica, Guns n' Roses, Iron Maiden or any of that kinda old stuff. Metallica goes for quite heavy riffs, then suddenly break into a twiddling guitar solo which is fucking good and hard to play, but totally doesn't fit in with the rest of their stuff. Iron Maiden just seems like Cheese Rock to me. I really can't stand them. And all the "scary" animations and stuff just makes them really corny for me. Nirvana songs just don't seem to have much to them. And what they do have is too grungy. Cobain's voice is original, but I don't like it, too....blah.

But hey, I'm an Emo kid. Stubborn as it may be, I just can't see how people don't like Emo. Weird.

Metro

Can someone enlighten me as what an "Emo Kid" is?....

I keep hearing that term thrown around and still don't know what it means.

I kinda thought this thread would turn into a dramatized "what are you listening to now?" topic.....

Well, to me anyways, it just sounds like Keane are one of those bands that have decided to steal Coldplay's sound in an attempt to make music. I hate Coldplay but I can understand why people like it. However I can't understand why everyone likes Keane so much. If Keane could muster one ounce of orignality, then maybe they'd interest me but at the moment, there inexplicably mundane.

Coldplay: Singer/Guitarist/Pianist/Harmonica, Guitarist/Backing Vocals, Bassist, Drummer/Backing Vocals.
Keane: Singer, Keyboardist, Drummer.

As you can see, the bands have completely different bases to their music. Keane's originality is in daring to use only keyboard, vocals and drums, and the special effects as in bedshaped. Plus, a common criticism of Coldplay is that their songs tend to have meaningless lyrics for the most part - actually listen to Bedshaped and you'll realise it is an incredibly profound song. Plus, Tom Chaplin has a completely different voice from Chris Martin. What you're saying seems to imply that they woke up one morning and said, "I know, let's steal Coldplay's style of music!", well, here's a shock for you: Coldplay actually opened for Keane before either band was famous, and Keane have been together making similar music (some of it with a guitarist as well) for over 10 years, since they met at Prep School whereas Coldplay only met a couple of years before their fame at UCL. So perhaps get informed before making an accusation like that?


Metro, I respect a lot of what you said but personally I don't think you should let how much a song is played affect your opinion of the song. If after listening to it a few times you don't like it as much fair enough, but just because it gets popular is no reason to dislike it. As for the whole emo thing, there are a few bands I like, such as Jimmy Eat World, but stuff like Dashboard annoys me slightly as it basses stuff far too much around the same power chords repeated again and again. I generally find you need to dig a little deeper to stuff like Ok Go to get the best of that genre.

Metro, I respect a lot of what you said but personally I don't think you should let how much a song is played affect your opinion of the song. If after listening to it a few times you don't like it as much fair enough, but just because it gets popular is no reason to dislike it. As for the whole emo thing, there are a few bands I like, such as Jimmy Eat World, but stuff like Dashboard annoys me slightly as it basses stuff far too much around the same power chords repeated again and again. I generally find you need to dig a little deeper to stuff like Ok Go to get the best of that genre.

Yes, I know what you're saying, but the topic says "bands/songs/music artists you just can't stand" and I can't stand listening to American Idiot/boulevard of broken dreams because it is overplayed

I don't like Dashboard at all.

The emo I like is Taking Back Sunday, Funeral for a Friend, The Used. Basically, stuff that involves more than power chords. They have more complexity and generally more to them than stuff like Dashboard. Also the best kinda stuff to see live.

Jkay, an Emo Kid is a kid that likes Emo (Emotional Hardcore) music

commercial dance,eric prydse (or whatever hes called) not even gonna try and spell it,and all that other shite that gets on crappy 'clubland 25','best club anthems EVER','gimme money for a different tracklist 5'

if im gonna listen to any sort of dance its gotta be pretty heavy,stuff like evil activites,edymionart of fighters etc.

Oh and i hate 'money' made boy bands like busted,mcfly etc

I'm not saying the Keane literally ripped Coldplay's sound. If it was that obvious then the general public would of picked up on it pretty easily. They've just decided to pick up a mix of Coldplay / Travis's sound and then apply it to a song template of soft verses / loud chorus (which is fine if your a Limp Bizkit). Every chorus tries to be more uplifting than the next and the lyrics are absolute drivel, far too personal to be accessible to anyone except the singer himself (notice the huge number of pronouns, particuarly "I"). His delivery also lacks any subtility, he just blasts it out in an attempt to be emotional, it plain sucks. Also about those electronic noises on Bedshaped, there just flourishes (David Gray style) and are just added to the song to draw our attention away from the samey lyrics about isolation. Gimme a break.

Its repetitive to the point of obvious banality and highly pretencious. Congratufuckinglations.

I'll give you the Drummer and Pianist form a pretty tight rhythm section though. Although by no means is it daring, hell, the Flaming Lips only have three musicians.

I agree with most of Metro's opinions, even though I don't particularly like Taking Back Sunday or The Used or the other bands he mentioned. Granted, I haven't heard too much of either, but the few songs I have heard I haven't enjoyed enough to look any farther.

I'm really more into mellow music, as I call it. Bands like Death Cab for Cutie and The Postal Service are right up my alley, but I also branch off into bands like Carbon Leaf, The Clarks, and some of the Goo Goo Dolls stuff. Of course, I also enjoy bands like Cauterize, Antifreeze, and other "emo" or "punk" bands, but I don't like to limit myself to any specific genre.

My LaunchCast station has tons of bands that I've rated:
hobbester07's Station

Under different circumstances, even the most strident anti-rap people could be fans of rap. Musical preferences break down demographically. Or if Keane hits it big first, Coldplay is accused of stealing their "sound". Who's copying who - that's just another image problem. It's not about the music itself, it's about how the music is perceived by the media. It's really quite arbitrary and insignificant. If you listen to rap and only rap and you read new music reviews from rap centered sources and you discuss music with other rap fans, then obviously you'll love rap music more and more because you are tuned to it. Everything else will sound foreign and strange to you. And it's the same for every genre of music. And instead of going 'rap sucks' or 'country sucks' or whatnot, you should probably just admit that you don't listen to those types of music regularly so you don't have any kind of appreciation for what is good about them.

The reason I see this as such a big issue is because it esablishes a pattern of behavior. Your brain works analogically. It connects A to B and B to C and without your even realizing it, your knowledge of a few things influences your thoughts about a mnuch larger range of things. Take sports teams. You grow up in a city and that city has a team. That team is on TV all the time. At school your friends are talking about the game the night before. You see posters of the local players and hear radio ads. So you grow up with an allegiance to one team which is based only on where you are. If you live in LA, you like the Dodgers and the Lakers. If you live in Sacramento you like the Kings. There are always exceptions of course, but that's generally how it is. So then these rivalries develop because your team is always the hero and thus everyone else are enemies. You start to hate people merely because they like "the bad guys" when really the only difference between you and them is that you live in different cities. Of course, stereotypes help in the depersonalization. And the same is true of religions. You grow up in a middle class family in America and there's a good chance you're family is Christian. Grow up in the Middle East and there's a good chance your family is Muslim. So when we allow ourselves to hate what we don't understand, maybe it's just music now, but it becomes a huge problem once you get older and the enemies are nations or whole religions and the weapons are not harsh words but tanks and bombs. Do you see what I mean? On a small scale yeah it's no big deal, but it's the same kind of thinking that leads to terrorism and to war.

In that you are inferring that everyone suffers from an inability to give things different importance in context. That may be true of some, but it smacks of a general disillusionment with the human condition, which I suppose may not be misplaced, but it still seems kinda fatalist.

This topic depresses me.

And you depress me with your never-ending ramblings, suppressing our opinion because in your opinion you don't like the way we express our opinions.

Not at all mantis. Fatalism is giving up. If I were that disillusioned I wouldn't bother saying anything at all. It's not that it's the same behavior. It's just one leads to the other. I know people are capable of understanding each other, but sometimes they just need a nudge.

The government, the media - they don't have have humanity's best interests in mind. They have their own interests. And not because all people are selfish, because they are not human entities - they are corporatized. Everyone is instructed to watch out for the bottom line so no one is accountable for the truth. That's always someone else's problem. That's the problem with beauracracy. No one is really in control of it. Everyone knows their own little piece so it's easy to lose track of the big picture. Like in that movie Cube. They have all these programmers working on some elaborate torture device but because each of them only knows a small piece of it, nobody knows what they're building.

And anyway, I'm not saying that disliking something and saying you do means you're incapable of feeling sympathy for others. And I know people can differentiate between killing people and saying you think some musical group is stupid. I just think that the only thing really preventing world peace right now is a lack of understanding for people we don't know and the illogical assumption that wherever you are, whoever you are, your way of life is what's best for everybody. Or at least everyone else should join you or get out of the way. I do believe world peace is a realistic possibility but there's a lot of roadblocks in the way and it's easier to tackle the smaller ones first.

And you depress me with your never-ending ramblings, suppressing our opinion because in your opinion you don't like the way we express our opinions.

I'm not supressing anything. I'm just telling you what I think, and furthermore why I think it which is only fair.

The stupid

R&B rap hip hop Shit.... that isn't music!!!!!!!
also trance\hard house\hardcore ect....
but i hate pop like Jessica Spears, JoJo Simpson, Aslie Bidingfeeld (it is just all the same )

eminem...

@^ : Yes. And the fact they played live with Green Day recently (MTV Aid) is even more reason they are on the shit list.

R&B rap hip hop Shit.... that isn't music!!!!!!!

grow up.

and

also trance\hard house\hardcore ect....

exactly the sort of person ed was talking about 'i listen to metal therefor i hate every other type of music even tho i dont listen to it'.

I have a pretty broad taste in music including everything from dmx,the strokes,travis to a nightmare in rotterdam so i think i can comment by saying listing to the same type of music gives you a sort of tunnel vision in taste.Theres still music types that i dislike even having tried hard to get into them and some which ive grown to love e.g gabber.Just by listening to it.Keep a broad view imo.

the things i hate are where band/artists are there just because someone put them together,they may hate each others guts,play shite and produce crappy records but media makes them look good.The best are the ones that are doing it for the music (and the money) but are not over commercialised (sp?) ,repetition ewww

The only bands I hate, really, are what I like to call "NME" bands. The buy expensive clothes made to look cheap, have expensive hair made to look cheap, drink a lot, smoke a lot, curse a lot, and fight a lot, and make music on the side, and don't seem to realise it. And, really, it's the "don't seem to realise it" bit that gets me.

Also, for some reason I haven't been able to listen to that "Galang" song all the way through. Then again, the same goes with a lot of other UK artists, these days, like, well, Dizzee Rascal. Although, I was able to listen, and enjoy to some degree, the Go Team (are they UK?).

Meanwhile, seeing as this entire post is about the UK, I just discovered that, after being raised Bavarian, I'm actually about 70% British (Ireland, England, and Wales, but no Scotland), and 30% Bavarian. It just so happens to be, however, that I was raised soley by my mother, who provided the 30% (meaning she was only about 40% UK). Now, the important question is, of course, do the Brits make good Potato Salad? I hope so...

I'm not saying the Keane literally ripped Coldplay's sound. If it was that obvious then the general public would of picked up on it pretty easily. They've just decided to pick up a mix of Coldplay / Travis's sound and then apply it to a song template of soft verses / loud chorus (which is fine if your a Limp Bizkit). Every chorus tries to be more uplifting than the next and the lyrics are absolute drivel, far too personal to be accessible to anyone except the singer himself (notice the huge number of pronouns, particuarly "I"). His delivery also lacks any subtility, he just blasts it out in an attempt to be emotional, it plain sucks. Also about those electronic noises on Bedshaped, there just flourishes (David Gray style) and are just added to the song to draw our attention away from the samey lyrics about isolation. Gimme a break.

Its repetitive to the point of obvious banality and highly pretencious. Congratufuckinglations.

I'll give you the Drummer and Pianist form a pretty tight rhythm section though. Although by no means is it daring, hell, the Flaming Lips only have three musicians.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You didn't even read my post. Keane formed before either Travis or Coldplay - how could they possibly rip off those bands? You obviously have no idea what Bedshaped is about. It's about death - hence "and up we'll go, in white light, I don't think so". Bedshaped is an expression invented by the keyboardist's two parents, the local GPs in Battle, and they used it to describe old people who could no longer get out of bed and were thus "Bedshaped". You make it sound like Keane thought, "oh, this song sucks and the lyrics are bad - let's put in some effects to draw attention from it" which is obviously complete bollocks. The effects are there to put you in an elated state of mind, and to indicate a higher, superficial kind of emotion to the song.

And as for the songs not being accessible - give me a fucking break. How about Somewhere Only We Know? Everyone has a special place that for them represents happiness - so surely everyone can identify with this song.

Your soft verses/loud chorus argument is an absolute joke as well - if you'd have listened to the album in its interity you'd have heard "Untitled 1" which single handedly rips your point to shreds. Listen to it and you'll see what I mean.

And I'm not one to dignify an argument such as "it plain sucks" by responding to it directly.

Many bands have 3 musicians - Stereophonics, Feeder, Keane, Flaming Lips, JJ72... I could go on. However, the fact that they exclude guitars is their originality.

Stargazer, you make me sick.

No one rips anyone off. It's more whoever gets big first is the one who usually is "original" even if other bands formed before them. This was stated before.