Park / The Ragnarök
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Nice to pick up right were the Hurricanes left off
on a related note, this one may break 100 votes, too. haha.
Edited by ride_exchanger, 24 June 2006 - 08:15 PM.
Edited by yeshli2nuts, 24 June 2006 - 08:44 PM.
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See, I don't get this. Arches made with wooden track are at least as overdone as 1/4 tile architecture. And what makes the buildings in Ragnarok "meaningless" that isn't true of the buildings in Castle Grijs? Hacking coaster track in LL does take work, but a lot of times I see it now and it seems like people just use it because that's the accepted style, not because it's essential to the theme. Doesn't it take more planning and creativity to decide to make a particular building and then recreate it with detailed 1/4 tile theming than it takes to add ghost train windows and wooden roofing and steel support beams to a bunch of otherwise generic land blocks? This whole "LL is more impressive because it's harder to do" thing doesn't really fly with me. What matters is the end product. It's the idea first of all and the execution of the idea second. What does it matter if you use coaster track or 1/4 tile scenery to pull it off? Both are cliches. There's too much leeway granted to LL just because not as many people can make it look good. People praise the technique -- look how they used that ride and look what they did with that coaster track -- but I don't think grading these parks should be all about which you think took more work or which is more skillful. We're ranking the parks here not the parkmakers. Yeah you should try to evaluate a park fairly based on what tools are available within that game, but that doesn't mean LL should get a free ride just because less people know how to use it.
I've voted The Ragnarok becuase it had so many little things that you cant see on the screens but if you look at it in game you see some very nice things. like the cars pushing agains each other and the mad drivers jumping over ice mountains. Also the Archy in the ragnarok is very good, it aren't simple buildings, everything is tought out perfectly.
the dam with the ice also looks very good and the coaster interact with it very good.
I don't have LL (can't get it working with my dutch version of rct1 and english version of LL) but what I see from the screens castle grijs is very good also. the lay-out of the castle is a bit stange. most real castle have a bit else lay-out. still the seige weapons are very nice.
still I go for the little things in the Ragnarok and not for the large things in castle grijs so I voted the ragnarok.
great post.
if you lost interest, and just decided to finish a park up, and then wait a few years before releasing, would it lose the fact that it was rushed, mr. Kumba? Though i'm not saying anything about the park itself, as i haven't been able to take a look yet.
and 15 or 9 times? castle themes have been done so many times throughout rct history it really isn't funny anymore. It's the standard of the standard, it was included in the original theme sets.
and i must agree with Ed, these parks need to be viewed for their beauty, innovativeness, anything else really, but not whether it was built in rct2 or ll. If ll is so much harder the builders should have chosen to build in rct2. It's not like they didn't have the choice did they?
Also the trebuchet (sp?) in the seige were very well done
The Ragnarök just had a slight level of detail to what was there to edge it over somthing we've all seen many times over in LL, which i think is kinda weak considering the amount of shit you can pile onto a single building/tile in RCT2, when you opened the park it just had the feel of lifelessness that i would expect coming from an end of the world type theme with the exception of the tram tryin to make its way out and the last few paniced drivers trying to do the same, as with The Seige At Castle Grijs, one explosion? the Siege seemed to be nonexistent after that the park just died, had nothing that grabbed your attention for more then a quick glance.
Edited by Alchemist L7, 25 June 2006 - 06:28 AM.
It's a lot closer than I thought it would have been, I thought the Hurricanes would be wiping the floor with them here.
love them both.