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In my experience a good coaster with great theming will always beat a great coaster with good theming. Coaster design just isn't that important to most people voting. There are a few here who I know look closely at the coaster design but they're in the minority.
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I classify a coaster with a "lift hill" as being a coaster that gets 'lifted' up the hill, not pushed or launched up the hill.
And, in rct, I try to avoid boosters at all costs.. however, in real life, I wouldn't mind if the coaster had boosters, as long as it doesn't slow down too much before it gets boosted.
NE is rumored to be the top site for RCT with the best parkmakers around. I'd pretty much have to agree with this to a certain extent. So, why is it that the majority of the coasters I see these days are timed so terribly?? I don't have any exact numbers or percentages, but I'm constantly seeing coasters stop at the top of lift hills, waiting for the previous trains to clear the MCBR!
Why is that?? People have such a problem with boosters on a coaster, but nothing is said when the trains ALWAYS stop at the top of the lift....
As an example (and I don't mean to pick on any one park because it certainly isn't alone), the Tigers park has 1 big coaster in it. It's obviously meant to be the focal point of the park, so why spend so little time working out the timing?? The first train I watched stopped on the lift...
I don't actually understand the point of block brakes anyway - well I can see why they're useful in real life but in rct they just piss me off.
So yes I think you are right, Todd. People should either use them inobtrusively or not use them at all.
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I think it's another remnant of the non-LL generation. I remember that in LL, everyone timed their coasters. The people who left their minimum and max load times at the default were a minority. That's just the way the game was played.
But as we've progressed more and more towards a theming-oriented RCT culture, coasters have suffered, and this is one example.
I also hate when a trains stops on the lift hill. I have two ways of dealing with this problem (sometimes I use both)
1 - Adjust/increase the "Minimum wait time" so that the train sits in the station vice on the lift hill. I then play with the times so that as soon as the first trains clears a block section the other train is 2-3 seconds from the top of the lift hill
2 - Design pre-lift hill track so that it takes some additional time to get to the top if the lift hill. Although Coyote Hills was not great, it did have three trains on each track and it did not stop on any lift hill.
Just my two cents as I'm no way an expert on coaster design
James
edit - Sorry cork, I did not see your reply as you stated the same thing.
Edited by RCTNW, 03 August 2006 - 10:03 AM.
I think it's essential to have properly timed trains on a track that's fully braked. Especially since most parkmakers here are demanding realistic components such as realistic track layouts, realistic track supports, catwalks, and transfer tracks. To demand that and not demand properly timed trains with block brakes doesn't make any sense to me. I'm surprised there isn't more discussion or complaints about it in H2H since most coasters haven't done it very well.
edit - oh and all you people who think this is a vaguely controversial match-up, you have no idea how much h2h has mellowed since the old days. (Posix, I still think you're a complete idiot in that topic...although not as much of an idiot as chauncey and wme
edit - and just to remind Kumba of how annoying he could sometimes be. and freak, too. shame I didn't call you out on that one, freak, before the topic was closed.
There is also this topic where Butterfinger and TPM had a go at eachother. Old h2h was a lot more fun to watch
Edited by OLE, 03 August 2006 - 11:40 AM.
Edited by Panic, 03 August 2006 - 12:10 PM.
But you know the saddest thing about it is that in that h2h more people couldn't vote because they didn't have rct2 than the other way round. How times have changed
Wow, I used to be smart. Going off about human nature and all that. Heh.
PS - Read the last post. That topic has the best punchline ever.