Park / Kitabasaki Dragonland
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just because ll isn't as technically advanced or "detailed" as rct2 shouldn't be cause for judging it unfairly or differently. it's still rct, it's part of the competition.
the two games really should be judged equally, regardless of buildings made with scenery or land or anything else, or it having neat little custom supports. what matters is the idea, and the execution of said idea.
I can't think of another reason why we have ~28-18 non-team votes in one direction and the complete opposite ratio in comments.
Edited by Panic, 28 August 2006 - 05:29 PM.
if only it was compolsory (sp?) to post before you vote...
surely this would eliminate cheating through secondary accounts as well as remove the mystery votes? just a thought
Edited by Gutterflower, 28 August 2006 - 05:23 PM.
Exactly what I was trying to say to Panic. Thanks for saying it in a much more accurate and concise way.
And why must there always be people whining and complaining. Who cares about the total votes and when the match is called, who cares about a bias against LL in the matchup. It's not like the winner is getting massive amounts of money or anything. H2H is all about pride and proving yourself, and quite frankly if you have built a truly good park it should reward the maker with the fitting pride and proof of skills regardless of wether the park wins its matchup or not and regardless of other complications. I get sick of people bitching about little pointless shit and forgetting the whole point of this site.
Edited by Panic, 28 August 2006 - 05:43 PM.
I liked both of these parks. The LL park actually didn't annoy me (surprise, surprise) and the RCT2 one was very pretty. I find it a little funny that people are pointing out how much better the architecure is in the RCT2 park. Umm, yeah, it's RCT2. That's what it does well. Look at Mont St. Michel. And it's also a little unfair Panic to say the architecture in an LL park looks kindof blocky or uninteresting once you remove the coaster track part of it don't you think? That's a pretty essential part of the architecture. You wouldn't say about an RCT2 park that the architecture looks a little bare once you remove all the scenery would you? I see what you were getting at, and I agree with you to a certain extent, but then I don't think it was ever the intention to make buildings which look good when you make half of them invisible.
And I think it's pretty obvious that the big unfairness in the voting is that half the people voting just don't have LL so they can't see both parks. I like how none of them has even mentioned that the LL park is 70x70 while the RCT2 park is only 50x50. Oh but you can't tell that by looking at the overview screens can you?
Edited by Panic, 28 August 2006 - 06:15 PM.
As bad as we (strangelove) need this win to turn things around I feel this is the first time we've come to winning unfairly. I loved for my own team figuring it would be "damage control", and at the time (with only a few votes in) we were tied. Now that I see we're winning by a solid margin I'm a bit sad.
Basically I'll be sad if we win this and angry if we loose it (because we'll be in a hole we might not be able to climb out of).
*sigh*
Ride6
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Such is the will of NE, I suppose.
It would just show that all of this LL stuff is bullshit.
When I say that, I mean that too many people vote for whatever they are used to and the norm, like a nice RCT2 park, rather than even trying to appreciate the LL park. I mean look at the topic, I doubt a couple of people who have voted (and posted!) have actually seen the LL park.
I personally haven't had time to look at the parks yet, and so I haven't voted. But it seems like I better. Of course I could easily vote the other way, I just wanted to bring up a few things.
Edited by Drew, 29 August 2006 - 12:46 AM.
that would all depend on what the standard for H2H is. do we actually know what we're voting on?
is this a contest to see which park took more skill to make, or which one looks better?
it's not listed in the rules, though it should be- corky kind of avoided it.
"The basic concept of Head-2-Head is simple. Any given matchup features two teams, each pitting a mini-park (usually around 50x50 to 70x70 squares in size) made by a pair of parkmakers. ... Upon the deadline, both parks of the matchup are posted on the forums for the public to vote upon. The winning park is the one with more votes. In this way, Head-2-Head acts as a sort of RCT Sport, with the teams and scores and the competition."
now, the easy answer here would be to say that we are voting on which park is better.
but what makes it better? while the skill of the creator is something that obviously can make something look better, from what i can understand this isn't a contest to determine which park took more skill to make. we could argue for hours about which takes more skill, LL or rct2, and not get anywhere.
I guess i'm trying to say that it shouldn't matter if the park is LL/rct2; if it looks worse than its competitor, it should lose. so stop voting based on what game the park was made in and start voting on the park.
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approx, matt.
Ride6
The Strangelove's park was great in every aspect: the coasters were great, the architecture was colorfull and the objects inside (spanish roof with the colorable tiles) are so usefull!
My vote=Strangelove