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You so cool. You must've attended cool-school. Really.
So.... on to things that dó matter, being things that aren't rct2isboss:
Germans:
It's always sad to see H2H-parks unfinished, and it must've been a real bummer for the builders that have put their time and effort in this. I really hope to see you guys finish this after H2H because it still has a lot of potential. For now:
+ I like the duelling coasters, very enjoyable layouts and smart choice of theme.
+ There were some really cool details in this, like the chess set and the motorbike. Small things that point towards the movie but really add. Can imagine you were planning to put a lot more of this in the park.
- Multiple things felt really out of place. The backstage/office area just didn't suit the rest of the park. Also, rides like the first year boats/aragog felt like you just hád to place them on the map even if they didn't fit in there. Aragog in the middle of a city just doesn't work as a concept, and the first year boats in such a unmisterious setting landing close to loads of pavement and buildings just doesn't do the whole idea of them justice.
- General unfinishedness, but you already knew that.
Canes:
First of all: I didn't like the movie. Second: I liked the park. You guys did some really cool stuff in here, I liked certain bits more than others, but overall this park was a joy to watch:
+ Really liked all the vehicles, nice recreations of one of the only cool features in the actual movie.
+ The training course was cool, and in fact the entire base was very well put together. Nicely detailed, the right atmosphere etc.
+ Loved the staff names, there's a lot of fun in there on several levels. From famous people to complete randomness and everything in between. I liked it a lot.
+ I really enjoyed the second half of the B&M, nice layout and speed. The first half was okay, but the second half just stood out for me.
- The forest area felt rather overhacked/-complicated. It's probably just a difference in style, but all the lag and glitching took more away from the atmosphere than the hacks/scenery used added to it. I know some people don't mind this as much as I do, but it kinda undid the brilliance (which it reallly had, in a sense) that was so carefully created.
P.s. the dancing with wolves joke is brilliant. Just brilliant.
P.P.S. builders of both parks put hours of work in this, maybe put some work in voting as a thank you as well? I really miss critical/detailed reviews in this topic, which is a shame. Not questioning people's votes, but some more willingness to give feedback will probably be appreciated by the builders involved.
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Besides a few faults and the glaring unfinishedness of it, I rather enjoyed the park.
My absolute favorite part has to be the whomping willow, it was superbly executed, innovative, and extremely creative; I haven't seen a flat ride excite me this much!
While the layout for the duelers was well made, it is really cliché to have a dueling dragons type ride in a Harry Potter park... can you say "been there, done that"? Would have liked to see a more innovative approach to Harry Potter.
The architecture of Hogsmead was disappointing, as it didn't really have the 'village' feel since it used the same roof/walls as Hogwarts itself (this doesn't make ANY sense, how can a castle and a village have the SAME materials???).
The chamber of secrets was a very cool ride, and I did like the layout of the park.
Hurricanes:
Loved the Banshee ride, very creative and again very well executed.
The floating islands themselves were impressive, but I REALLY DISLIKE the clouds around them. It ups the mess factor in the park x10.
The first part of the main coaster was atrocious. The second part was FANTASTIC. Overall the coaster becomes mediocre.
I love the giant tree, it was superbly done. The gardens around it could have used more foilage, but the overall feel was great.
The Army base was fantastic as well, there were so many little details from the film that were captured in the interiors. The recreations of the planes and tanks left me thinking "wow..." Best part of the park.
Definitely should have named the park something more creative than "Avatar", and the welcome message should have been "Welcome to Pandora". But that's just my opinion.
Could've been a great matchup, but unfortunately the Germans' park was too unfinished. No contest:
Avatar was good, but like others have said it seemed a bit messy in places, though that didn't take away too much. The flyer was pretty original and there were plenty of neat details all over.
Harry Potter could have been excellent, but was simply too unfinished to even be considered for a vote. I hope this can either be finished afterward or be redone and made to a high standard.
Harry Potter -
Great layout for the coasters, for the first 80% of them. The endings were a little off, which was a shame. But awesome speed at the start, loved it. Really good to see some nice duelers.
This park had a lot of potential, just obviously you lost love for the project as a team. Some parts were absolutely fantastic... Hagrid's hut was brilliant, really great feel for that. I knew immediately what it was. Some of the architecture had flashes of brilliance, but Hogsmeade would have been much better with less steep rooves, in my opinion. I kinda know what you were going for, but these are too steep for me.
The office building, while very nice, left me thinking "why?!". Maybe in a more finished park it wouldn't have stood out as much and would have been a nice addition.
Overall, pity it wasn't finished.
Avatar -
Well I guessed two of the three builders immediately (although you didn't have to put them in a cave... slightly risky I thought!). This was undoubtably a good park, and i'm glad to finally see a good Avatar park, but I can never love this just because it's so damn messy.
So many little flashes of brilliance all through the park, clever details, wonderful building. Just to name a few - the ornithopter, pandora hologram, vehicles in the army base, bulldozer, in fact, most of the army base. Lovely work, and it didn't feel sterile at all, which was really well done. The Avatar training ride, I actually have NO idea how you hacked that. Cool.
The floating islands kinda HAD to be included, and yet they really messed this park up I thought. The mist ruined the view of everything, and the islands messed up many views of things. One of those "nice idea, bad aesthetics" things. Same goes for a lot of things in this park. Nice try at the giant tree, I know first hand how hard it is to build one of those. The foliage throughout the park was the major drawback I think. It's almost the defining feature of Pandora, and it could have been done so much better than just recolouring some jungle trees.
The coaster and surrounding areas felt like a theme park in places, which confused me. Sort of not knowing how to build this park, as a theme park or a recreation, which is understandable as i've had the same problem quite a few times. Especially difficult with a movie park.
Overall, enough brilliance throughout to carry what aesthetically didn't really work for me. I'm sure this would have gotten my vote over many a park this season, but I don't love it yet. Still, definitely commendable to finish a park of this scope and size to this level of detail in such a time frame. Nice work guys.
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I'm wondering who did a waterfall area. It just looks incredibly aesthetic, great execution with brilliant interaction.
Certainly best landscaping so far in H2H6.
This park was pretty much all you could ask for an Avatar themed park. But I felt it couldn't decide if it was a real theme park or a fantasy park. On one hand you had a more or less realistic ride layout, a few believable rides and down-to-earth architecture, on the other hand you had these flying islands, the animals flying around and no real hint if it was a park or the Avatar world itself. I just wished you'd have decided for either. But don't get me wrong - the ideas were really great. I loved the base area with all the indoor and underground details, the scenes you know from the movie and also I got the feeling from the movie too which was really great! The ride ideas were great - the seeds of the tree and the ride on that big creature as a main ride seemed logical to me and well executed. What I also didn't like were the slight messiness of the park and those tree trunk objects, they somehow stood out so much. I can't really say much more about the park. The jungle could have used a little more color - it seemed much more colorful and whimsical in the movie. If the park decided if it was a theme park or a fantasy approach it would have been much more amazing.
Harry Potter:
Kudos for the theme of the park. Seemed to be due for long enough. Even I toyed with the theme already! The park layout looked nice. The sign to the area was nice but I think the scar symbol would have been better than the glasses. The owl ride was a nice idea and I can imagine it being built in a real Harry potter area. The architecture was pretty much based on the real area it seems and it was quite nice, although not as atmospheric as in RL. I didn't really get the pumpkin ride there, I couldn't recall a pumpkin playing a major role in the books/movies to justify a ride in an Harry Potter area. Hagrid's hut was perfect and so was the wheeping willow ride. I just hoped everything was finished. I didn't really get the blue/purple tent at the end of the Hogsmeade area. Was it from goblet of fire? The ferris wheel looked lackluster and I wonder what the wlakthrough house(?) was for, I couldn't really tell what was going on there. Also the Hogwarts express would have been cooler if it would lead from Hogsmeade to the Castle or something. It didn't make much sense as it was. The castle itself and the ride could have turned out so cool if it was finished, although the structure was really damn big. I didn't get why you finished those office buildings outside the park rather than the park itself. Might be were one builder stopped working and the other just didn't have time. For the layouts of the coasters: The start was nice, the loops and corkscrews awkward, the pacing too fast in some parts (you used trimbrakes too it seems), the endings weren't in synch (would have been cooler if both the trains hit the brake nearly at the same time) and the missing BBS was dissapointing too. Please work on that - the interactions with the castle give the opportunity for an awesome ride! All in all it was a promising park but so dissapointing everything was unfinished. I just hope the Flying Germans will pick up the pace already and show their full potential. I know they can do it! We want to beat Robbie in the finals!
All in all a matchup that could have been amazing, but since I can't vote on parks that could have been rather than on parks that are:
Wish I could have seen Potter finished because what was there was really great. But regardless of that Avatar looked great. I was a big fan of the military complex especially-- that was well put together and the realistic details were nice, especially the aircraft. The realist in me wasn't a huge fan of the coaster, but I loved the way it looked and it was fun to watch. I was less of a fan of the floating stuff and things flying around, but it does certainly fit the theme. Really this was just a fun park to look around in general-- there was a lot going on.
You have some explaining to do, "111112oo"
Levis was a natural to help with this, I loved the hacks he did and this was one of the rare parks where they could truly work for the best. Josh... he just wants to build on everything and as of now is our team MVP
I only feel bad that our guys need to live with the fact that a lot of you thought I was one of the builders
Levis:
Home Tree
Flight of the Banshee
Bioluminescent foliage
Hallelujah mountains
In:Cities:
Most of the architecture in the military base
Most of the vehicles in the base
wheres_walto:
Toruk Makto
Trials of Eywa
The cliff/waterfalls and forest
Tsaheylu
Basketball courts and link trailers
Helicopters and biosuits
Staff naming
Thank you all for the kind feedback!
Walto is a serious up and comming player and I really hope to see more from you aswell
Levis needs no introduction in terms of style and skill so it's just waiting for him to build really
but still I can't stress enough how badly I would like to see harry potter finished though, the bits that are there are great and it'd be a shame if this never got finished
Don't worry though, you've only seen a little bit of me so far!;]