Park / Pinball Wizard

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  • Comment System%s's Photo
  • turbin3%s's Photo
    voting on this was so...hard
  • SSSammy%s's Photo
    didn't really think this was design material, to be honest. as we know, you're a god of rct, roomie. i think right now your CV is clogged with "okay" releases when, really, you're capable of incredible ones. sometimes aswell, i think you concentrate too much on hack than the actual aesthetics of something. and i think that's fantastic, just not something i'm going to vote highly on in these circumstances.
  • Roomie%s's Photo
    I was split if i should Send this in as a design of as a park. It clearly split opinion. I mean look at that split in the votes... I dont think it really fits into either of the current designations. Technically it would fit perfectly into the Concept Creation section we used to have and i think it suffers a bit because of the difficulty of classing it.

    The Aim here was to build something completely different to anything we have ever seen here. And I would like to think think I achieved this.

    However I'm glad it got out there and It I hope it provides you guys with something different to look at try. It certainly provides one hell of a contrast to SFC :p

    Oh and Geewhzz the write up refers to me as Rommie :)

    PS: There is a secret Track in this design if u guys can find it :p
  • tdub96%s's Photo
    Wow that looks really cool from the overview... :drool:
  • Levis%s's Photo
    damned roomie. wanted to do something like this for a while already :p .
  • rK_%s's Photo
    this thing is epic roomie, how many rct years was this?
  • RCTMASTA%s's Photo
    It's times like this I hate that I didn't buy the expansion pack(s) individually... Say, do you need AA/CF if you are going to buy LL? Because it seems like LL has everything AA/CF has, or that's what I heard anyway... Anyway, Roomie, it looks incredible form the overview...wish I could view it in-game... blast...
  • Fizzix%s's Photo
    What a creation! Very unique, I've never seen anybody even attempt something like this! And it's named after one of my favorite songs! Well done! :mantis:
  • JJ%s's Photo
    LL includes AA
  • GigaG%s's Photo
    What the french toast! Roomie, this is phenominal! I am about to load LL to see it, but by the looks of the aerial, it is amazing!
  • dmaxsba%s's Photo
    If this was made with RCT2 I would not be impressed but with RCT. Yea, I am impressed! Also parks/designs like this what would be the better way to go since since there is not really an "OTHER" category for such projects. Not really a park and not really a design.
  • Nokia%s's Photo
    it was a good idea, just not really i thought would be a design. more of a CC for me. but since we don't have those anymore....
  • Roomie%s's Photo
    Cheers Guys

    SSSammy - i understand your concerns although i perhaps dont agree :p For me this was just a way of doing something different. Sure its not really a strong design as such. but i'd like to think it would have been a strong CC if it could have been

    Levis - Whats stopping you? :p

    RCTMASTA - LL includes AA/CF so all you need is to by the original and LL

    Fizzix - Thanks very much. That was pretty much the aim :p

    GigaG - Thanks :) Hope u enjoyed it in game too

    dmaxsba - Thanks very much. As mentioned i agree it doesnt quite fit as a design. But i thought it fit better than park release

    Nokia - Thanks for the thoughts. Again i understand the critque :)

    Note: For those with a trainer handy (Beast or Codex). Try setting the main ride to Downward launch Mode for more fun
  • tyandor%s's Photo

    I was split if i should Send this in as a design of as a park


    Which was exactly the point of a Concept Creation as Nokia also mentioned. It's for the things that aren't a design, but also aren't a (full)park. Wonder why that ever disappeared though.

    Anyway, I have to judge from the overview as I don't have LL here anymore, it looks decent, but I think that I have to see it in action to fully appreciate it. Good enough for a design though.
  • ][ntamin22%s's Photo
    I think at this point if you aren't sure about design/park you should go for park. The tiered medal system matches oddball stuff better than the pass/fail design system.

    although design might get you more points :p

    I always try to vote according to the little guides next to the percentage options- "I liked this more than I disliked it", "I didn't like most of this" , etc.

    This is probably not the shining example of what a "design" should be, but what category it goes in isn't my problem. That's between the parkmaker and admins/submission reviewers (not accolade panelists).
  • dmaxsba%s's Photo
    Sorry if this is a discussion you do not want in your Design win topic Roomie but I am wondering a few things. If you find this in bad taste please say so and I will delete it or have one of the admins do so. Or maybe move it to another similar topic if there is one.

    No disrespect intended with any of this... ;)

    Is this the first park that has been submitted of this style since the end of the Concept Creation category?

    How did the panelists feel about voting for this since it was submitted as a design or would many of them have rather seen it submitted as a park release?

    This is probably going to come off the wrong way and I really don't mean for it to and I have no doubt that I do not have all the information about why Concept Creations were removed from judging but the two lowest scores came from the NE administrators and I assume they are the one's who decided to get rid of the Concept Creation category in the first place, so I have to ask should it be restored?, and do their scores for this release reflect their dislike for this kind of submission in general?

    Now that I probably made everyone mad, I just want to say again that was NOT my intention.
  • J K%s's Photo
    Nah don't worry to speak up, you've done it in a completely respectful manner so you're entitled to your opinion. I'd like to see them back but all I can say is thats never going to happen. I'm not sure why but not many people actually submitted them in the first place and it didn't feel right having a dump place (so to speak) of random park concepts.

    I think it would be healthy to have it back in cases like this as I don't believe this park suits the class of a design. Whilst still very creative and skilled in every aspect it just doesn't feel right. I think if Roomie wanted this to be a design, he'd theme the complete area around the outside to showcase a ride in a park, by not doing that it's clear to me that Roomie just wanted to showcase the concept.

    When I judge a design I always judge how good the ride would be in a park or an environment, the layout and how well it does it's job and how true the layout resembles current day models. This is all well and good with realistic designs and fantasy designs to some extent but when a concept like this is thrown in the works it's neither realistic or fantasy, it's just an idea. Maybe I'm getting carried away but I agree with certain people who were half and half about this. While I think the execution is top class and the idea is somewhat amazing I don't think it fits within the design boundaries.
  • SSSammy%s's Photo
    i'll take a couple of minutes to explain my understanding of the removal of the "concept creation" catagory. at the time, new element was for parks and designs, and people were very elitist in this sense. some people would not have seen this as a park because it's just a pinbally thing. The admins at the time decided to create a catagory for these kind of "not a park, but also not a design" type releases, and the COncept Creation catagory was born.

    since Posix and geewhzz took over, they were forever toying with the idea of scrapping the weaker afterthought-type-releases, and centralsing the whole accolade system around the G/S/B thing. the Concept Creation catagory was created to fill a gap in the market which came from people using the game in new ways. my understanding of the situation is that posix and gee wanted an accolade system free of influence and the "you should build like this to get this accolade" mindset which most of the community was in.

    so, at this point in time, concept creation should not be added back into the system, as i think we all want an accolade system where anything can get an accolade. not the current "this, this and this go in this catagory, and this, this and this go in that catagory" system.

    (if i have completely mistold the story, i'll accept responsibility for my retarded account of what happened and edit the post, i however think i got all the important stuff in there.)
  • posix%s's Photo
    sssammy, what would i do if you didn't post anymore :)