K0NG

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^^ You really just don't get that I tried that...numerous times and through numerous avenues. I got no reply to any of them.

And Laim, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What I don't understand is how your real life persona would even be linked to a very unknown website, that it would so much as even be relevant to your business. It seems like you're saying that whoever you do business with, knows that you're 'kong on nedesigns, a site for a game?', I'd understand if this was some more relevant part of the internet, but seriously who would care or take anything on here seriously, if they even knew of it's existence. You've just confused me even more that's all, granted none of it matters now, just peculiar to me xD

As I've mentioned before, I got "back" into RCT around 2006 when I found the plethora of custom objects available and began using RCT as a platform to show potential and existing clients a different kind of "blueprint" for jobs I was doing. Because of that, quite a few former clients, as well as numerous friends and family members are quite aware of this, and other (though mostly defunct) RCT websites. Add to that, that IRL my friends actually do call me K0NG.....well, I hope you get the picture.

With the caveat that we know the guy writing it is an asshole, at least through emotionless medium that is plain text, I thought his message was downright congenial.

This is hopefully the last time I ever have to stand up for KONG. FML.

In favor of Posix, he's dealt with an unbelievable amount of bullshit over the feelings of two random strangers on a bullshit website about a 12 year-old game with a dwindling fan base that he runs in his spare time, even though that means he rarely gets to play it. And as I've already said, KONG is an asshole, deserves the reputation, and knows it. He could have worded the email better. Much better. Much, much, much better. It's really not the point though--posix is fucking exhausted with dealing with this shit storm over nothing and a poorly worded email that comes off as arrogant and defiant was enough for him to assume that KONG was continuing to be an asshole, even when I really don't think that was his intent at all. Can you really blame him for assuming that, KONG? After all of this, and all of your comments?

First of all, it was a PM sent here, at this site. After exhausting all other options I had to communicate with posix personally regarding this matter, and with,IMO, time being of essence...I opted to send a PM here. I used "Accolade Panel" as the title in the hope that he would actually read the PM in the first place (I've mentioned that I got absolutely no response from him trying other methods...including posix immediately "leaving" any previous PM messages involving me without even reading them) and mentioned the "lawsuit" in order to get his attention. It worked perfectly....until posix made the decision to take it all public instead of simply replying privately.

Posix, I've been shaking my head for what you have had to deal with. It's not acceptable and I'm tired of being someone that doesn't speak up for the people that are getting shit.

The problem with this post is that I'm actually one that IS standing up for the people that are getting shit. With me being one of them. One of the reasons that I decided to not continue with this whole ordeal earlier is that there was SO much wrong with posix' initial response in this thread that it would have 1). taken forever to address every false or misleading statement he made and 2). most likely received the tl;dr reaction from the people it would have been intended for because of that.

Judging by what I've read in the posts here...the majority of people replying seem to see posix as this generous, heroic, kind hearted, peace loving soul that cares for everyone and everything RCT/NE related. Because that's the persona he's created for himself since becoming admin. You haven't seen, until this topic, the spiteful, hate-spewing, holier-than-thou, "I'm NEVER wrong" person that I , and others have dealt with any time he wasn't getting his ass kissed or being praised for being the second coming of Christ himself. All the way back to things he told me (and others) about how Curtis refused to respond to him for months at a time regarding things that needed to be done with the site and what he thought of him for that.....up to how he dealt with the whole Cena situation and resulting maelstrom that he, himself, helped create. He wasn't "asshole of the year" three years running for nothing.

I hate to be someone to continue this conversation further as I'd happily just let it die so we can just get on with RCT, what we are actually here for, but the fact is that this was said:



I'd like to point out that you are not just threatening the admins of the site, but you are threatening the entire community by iniating a lawsuit against the site.

I know that a lot of people come here to view great RCT and celebrate a game that is over 10 years old. This site itself is 10 years old and holds a place in many people's hearts, no matter how many people say that 'this is just a game', this community makes the game so much more than just that.

I understand that things have been said, I personally don't know what, but taking action against the site is taking it too far.

By threatening the site with a lawsuit for libel there is the possibility that the site will end up disappearing for good, after a fantastic 10 years, and that would be all down to you. NE would be no longer and I know a great deal of people wouldn't be too happy about that, regardless of whether this is 'just a game' or not.

There was to be no monetary compensation or punitive action sought. The "suit" was simply a legal demand for certain defamatory statements to be "immediately and permanently deleted from the specified posted, public document followed by a posted, public retraction of said statements as being baseless and speculative in nature with malice being the sole purpose of the author". No more, no less.

First of all, the "lawsuit", as previously stated, was an "I'm out of options, I have no other choice" tool that I could, no matter how reluctantly, use to have the libelous statements removed if all other methods failed. Including "the site you represent" was necessary to establish that posix is, as an administrator, fully capable of performing the requested tasks without needing further authorization. And, I'll reiterate that it was only my initial response to what I'd read. By saying, in the PM to posix "But, If you'll post that what you said was in error, (maybe you were just pissed, whatever...it's your choice) I'll put 'em in the shredder immediately." and "Let's just try to co-exist somewhat peacefully, ok? " I'd think it was clear that I had no intention of bringing any kind of lawsuit to fruition.

Bottom line is....all I wanted was for the libelous statements to be removed so that anyone that hadn't read them,couldn't...and for posix to state that he had absolutely no knowledge of any of it being factual. I didn't even ask for any kind of apology. All he had to do...or more to the point, should have done....was to take 30 seconds to edit his post and say "oops".

That's the last comment I have any desire to make regarding this whole situation. Feel free to continue spewing venom towards me for being a part of this whole mess. It's your prerogative. But, like BG mentioned......if posix got annoyed with something any one of you did or said, and, in anger, posted something like "I realize that (insert your name) must be feeling remorse from recently cheating on his girl/boyfriend multiple times, but that should be no reason for........" in a public forum that your girl/boyfriend not only had access to, but had previously visited.....well, like MA said, you'd be pissed too.

UnFUCKINGbelievable.....guess it's gonna be one of those seasons again.

Hmm, can't imagine anyone would waste their time on such a pointless case, where there would be no worthwhile monetary outcome..... Money down the drain which would no doubt achieve nothing... The idea is just incomprehensible to me, and I'm a crazy motherfucker. Sounds interesting though O;

There was to be no monetary compensation or punitive action sought. The "suit" was simply a legal demand for certain defamatory statements to be "immediately and permanently deleted from the specified posted, public document followed by a posted, public retraction of said statements as being baseless and speculative in nature with malice being the sole purpose of the author". No more, no less. It was also my immediate reaction to the events that occurred...to be instigated as a last resort should no practical resolution be available. As I've already stated, I since decided to proceed in an entirely different direction, which was of no concern to anyone but posix and myself until it was made public today.

Uhm guys, why can't you both put this whole situation into perspective? It's just a video game fansite, and no-one gives a shit about who's right or wrong on this matter (at least I don't). Just stfu and build parks

This is beyond ridiculous. If K0NG would have just let it go, everything would be fine... But no, that's too easy.

When posix crossed the line by posting blatantly false statements regarding my personal life, it became about more than just a video game.

I tried to let it go by refusing to continue the topic. What would have been "too easy" was for posix to simply respond to my attempts to rectify the situation privately. It may seem trite to some, or most of you...but being a business owner and head of a family, I can't allow anyone to publicly state, as fact, blatantly false, defamatory information that could possibly affect both my business and family status.

Again, I made numerous attempts to deal with this privately.

Well, that's one way of evaluating the situation at hand. Another would be to realize that you posted 'facts' about me that were anything but factual and I'd simply like you to retract them. The only reason the site itself was even mentioned in my request is because you made the statements while acting as a representative of the site.

For anyone interested, here's the PM I sent to posix, in it's entirety:

" Like I'd mentioned previously...now that I'm like, a full fledged member again...I'd really like my place back on the accolade panel.

BTW, since you're not accepting offline IM's.....I did try to IM you in an attempt to make peace. So....I'll just try here. We'll never be friends. Obviously. But, I'm as sick of all the bullshit as you are. That's why I just shut up and let everything go.

I'm not happy about what you said about me though....TBH, I have papers sitting here...all but filed...to initiate a lawsuit against you and the site you represent for libel. But, If you'll post that what you said was in error, (maybe you were just pissed, whatever...it's your choice) I'll put 'em in the shredder immediately.

Let's just try to co-exist somewhat peacefully, ok? "

If you'd like to take that as some sort of "threat"...it's entirely up to you. Though, the fact that you posted the above reply less than 3 minutes after reading my PM (including the time it took to type your post) is quite an indication of the knee-jerk reactions typical of you in matters such as this and sheds some light, IMO, on the amount of thought that's gone into a lot of decisions that have been made recently.

Like I said before, when I read some of the things you said, I was as angry as I'd ever been here. That's when I filled out paperwork. Since then, I've obviously realized that there was a much better way to go about things and tried to communicate with you directly to discuss the matter. Apparently, you'd rather try to make it a much bigger issue and continue down the path that got us all here in the first place.